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Horrible fall there for Pyschomodo who was going well enough too (wasn’t finding less than the other 2 anyway)
Workmanlike victory for Noland IMO
Just listened to it on william hill, they think he was workmanlike but he won like he wanted further but as they pointed out, it will be a much faster pace at cheltenham and will play better to his strengths
Should Tidal Bay run in the Arkle, the race is his to lose. I still maintain that he’s the most talented novice chaser at The Festival.
The only horse I’ve seen thus far that is capable of progressing and competing against the best between 2 – 3 miles next season.
I hope he gets a decent warm up today and races against a couple of decent animals before he goes to the Festival……
You can have 50s with me that he runs again after today and before the Arkle- no chance.
I think you would give me 50’s about him in the Arkle now
However these little poxy races are no guide to his chances in the Arkle. If he goes for the race I wouldn’t let that race influence me one way or the other………
Was not very impressive but I think he is a better horse at Cheltenham so can improve on that, he certainly will need to though to be fair.
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Just listened to it on william hill, they think he was workmanlike but he won like he wanted further but as they pointed out, it will be a much faster pace at cheltenham and will play better to his strengths
Bulwark, that is absolute tosh!
His strength isn’t his pace, even though given a very positive ride today he was still unable to put distance between himself and some relatively modest horses. He won’t see where better horses went in the Arkle.
This horse needs further over fences, a point I made some while back when this particular ball of hyperbole was set rolling.
If he were mine, he wouldn’t go near the Arkle.I think the point he’s making, reet, is that a fast pace around Cheltenham will invariably bring stamina in to play.
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I think the point he’s making, reet, is that a fast pace around Cheltenham will invariably bring stamina in to play.
LGR
The times are as yet unavailable, but I suspect today’s race was run at a decent clip.
If he can’t go any faster than he did today, which the way he ran suggests, the first 3 will be home and hosed before his stamina has any bearing.If we had a 2m4f Graded novice chase then Tidal Bay would win as i dont think he has the speed for 2m.
Noland is improvinmg all the time and will be the one to beat in the Arkle as long as he keep on song.
Dont forget in the Supreme Novices he beat the likes of Sublimity,Sweet Wake,Buena Vista,Natal,Crow Wood and Jazz Mesenger so it is fair to say he is the class horse of the race
I’m not in agreement with Bulwark’s statement, reet, just trying to make clear the point he was making.
I had backed Noland on the strength of his debut victory and subsequent effort of Polinamix, but I’m holding out little hope after today’s performance.
Im not overly down about the performance, obviously it would be nice if hed destroyed them going away but a good jumping performance and a winning performance isnt all that bad. At the end of the day last years winner was a world hurdle winner who was pulled out of the ryanair last minute. I got on him at 16s and Id still have him as one of the top contenders, I would never have backed him at his recent price and I suspect that those who have backed him in that far may be worried about the win bet as the betting would suggest that more was expected today. I wouldnt say hes not going to finish in the top three though on that run…
Although Noland wasn’t impressive, it doesn’t look a great field for the Arkle and I’m not at all sure who I think could beat him.
Well I think the likes of John Quinn will be delighted with that result. He already fancied his horse a lot, now he’ll be praying the ground comes right for him. Bound to improve from his last run and with doubt about Noland having retained the toe he showed 3 years ago Tidal Bay’s jumping a bit iffy he could be the one that all have to beat…..I of course want Tidal Bay or Noland to win but as I said before Noland ran I am not confident.
Did someone say Noland was a talking horse? can’t be arsed llking back……….that’s not a staement you make about Cheltenham winners he a bit more than that……..If todays race was indeed a ffst run race I would be happier simply because he has proved he can lie up with the pace and that may have been the object of the excersise as far as PN is concerned……If he has retained his ability to quicken I am pretty sure he could be way too much for them at Cheltenham…..nothing else has ever shown the turn of foot he has/had….these 3 horse races, that is what it turned out to be, are famous for horses being flattered (Think Kicking King) I wouldn’t be too concerned with the form……..It’s more than likely the second wouldn’t get near in a proper race
Time will tell
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It was me who said he was a hype horse, which he is in respect of the Arkle, as he showed today. That doesn’t mean he isn’t a good horse, just that he needs further.
Is this the famous turn of foot you are referring to;In touch, pushed along 4 out, soon lost place, not fluent next, 5 length down 2 out, 7 length down and under pressure last, strong run run-in, led last strides
because on that form alone (his Supreme Novice win) he is unlikely to have the pace for an Arkle.
The horse that was challenging him at the 2nd last today (Psychomdo), is also a 2.5m horse, yet could still muster enough pace to put Noland under duress today and, poor field or not, there will be faster horses, putting him under more pressure, in the ArkleWell Reet me old buddy I was basing half of what I said on the fact our co memeber Bullwark said that PN said he was Cheltenham fit for todays race.
Now I read in the Spoting Life website that the horse was no where near fit and it was either have racecourse gallop or run him today after a setback.
Remind me to wring his neck
They are also saying exactly what i said that they are happy he laid up with them or words to that affect.
Ruby goes on to say he wants a faster pace and he’s the horse you would want to be riding at Cheltenham.
I rspect your point of view but if it’s ok I will take Ruby’s as golpel as I do have a conisderbale bet on him and I will sleep better tonight if I do
These Novice chasers are never easy to work out at the best of times.
Read that on Nicholls slot on teletext the other day, nicholls even said in the article below that he that he was in "tip top shape", the betting on him also indicated that more was expected today, if sportinglife report now says that isnt the case then there something wrong somewhere…
Arkle hotpot Noland runs at Sandown
Published: 21/02/2008 (Sport) Lee Mottershead
RACEGOERS at Sandown tomorrow are set to see a Cheltenham Festival favourite in action after Paul Nicholls last night announced Arkle Trophy market leader Noland an intended runner in the track’s 2m novice chase, writes Lee Mottershead.
Nicholls had been considering both the Sandown race and Saturday’s Pendil Novices’ Chase at Kempton, but Sandown was always the preferred option for the 2006 Supreme Novices’ Hurdle hero, who trades as short as 11-4 favourite for the Irish Independent-sponsored Arkle after his winning chase debut.
Nicholls said: "John Hales is very keen to get a run into him on an undulating track, so we have wanted to run him at Sandown. Andrew Cooper says that he has put water on the track, and after what he has told me the horse is an intended runner.
"He’s in tip-top shape now after picking up a bug at Folkestone. If we get him to Cheltenham in top shape, I’m sure he’ll be the one to beat."
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