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- August 19, 2009 at 01:35 #244653
What I find more depressing is that we have 3 Group 1s this week, 2 of which have yielded fields of 5 and 6 at the 48-hour dec stage. Add that to the 6 in the Lonsdale and that spells 3 pitiful races.
August 19, 2009 at 13:27 #244719Graysons i am very dissapointed in you

Thought you would have mentioned the infamous 3m2f Novice Chase at Cartmel with only two runners when Jimmy Lambe supplied them both.
18 months ago, I did just thatt!

http://www.theracingforum.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=72206
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August 19, 2009 at 13:27 #244720Was that novice race at Cartmel a Group One ?
It was in Mr. Graysons opinion!!!


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August 19, 2009 at 15:02 #244733
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What I find more depressing is that we have 3 Group 1s this week, 2 of which have yielded fields of 5 and 6 at the 48-hour dec stage. Add that to the 6 in the Lonsdale and that spells 3 pitiful races.
If you are suggesting that yesterday’s (virtual match) for the Juddmonte International was "pitiful", I’m afraid I can’t agree with you at all. The hush that fell over the York crowd as it awaited the first move from Murtagh was one of the most thrilling moments I’ve ever encountered on a racecourse.
Small fields for Group 1’s are an indication of quality over quantity, more often than not, and they can produce extraordinary drama. There’s less cannon fodder to get in the way, for one thing.
I don’t suppose many present yesterday felt themselves short changed by a race which will remain imprinted on many memories for years to come.
August 19, 2009 at 15:47 #244741Come on, it’s not exactly a race that’ll still be remembered in years to come. On every single formline going Sea The Stars was entitled to win by roughly exactly the margin he won by. There were no unknowns going into the race and it was a simply a case of ‘can Mastercraftsman outbattle Sea The Stars?’
However, if after the Eclipse you were asked ‘which is the match race you want to see?’ I very much doubt people would say MCM vs STS.
The Irish Champion with Fame and Glory (still not exactly mind-blowing), the QE2 with Rip Van Winkle, the BC Mile with Goldikova, the July Cup with Fleeting Spirit/Kingsgate Native, etc, would all be far higher up people’s wishlists (IMO) because the latter 2 have no indications in any formline as to which will prevail victorious and because they’re the top of their class this season.
August 20, 2009 at 19:03 #244974Sadly as Pinza Indicates there is a lack of quality Group One horses running in England (at least 3yos) while Ireland has more than their share. The first six in the Derby and the runners up in the other races won by Sea the Stars. O’Brien does not seem afraid to take on the best why will nobody else rise to the challenge. It is no disgrace to be beaten by a superior horse.Where would group one racing be without Coolmore?
August 21, 2009 at 02:30 #245057I was at York, the crowd went nuts when Sea The Stars went too his Coolmore rival and gunned him down. You could not get near the parade rung too see Sea The Stars. Tuesday was all about Sea The Stars, period.
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