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August 17, 2009 at 16:28 #12415
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With reference to the (elsewhere bemoaned) defection of Tartan Bearer from the Juddmonte International at York tomorrow, can anyone contradict my notion that this is the first Group 1 (or possibly race of any kind!) to be run on British soil, but without any British runner?
A lamentable business….
August 17, 2009 at 16:34 #244318Hopefully Alan Lee will be on the case before too long. Instead of writing fawning articles about Luca Cumani (who sends most of his good overseas these days) maybe he’ll get stuck into a few of them.
You’ll find them in Deauville, Alan.
August 17, 2009 at 16:39 #244319Following the King George where Stoute provided the first three now we have the Juddmonte without any English runners one wonders why the sponcers even bother with English racing. Take Oxx and O’Brien out of the recent Derby and even that becomes a farce.
August 17, 2009 at 16:59 #244324Some of these winter all-weather races come close. There was one at Wolver last December where five of the six runners in a bog-standard handicap came from Ireland.
You wonder how they justify the travel expenses to run horses for a couple of grand prize money in some cases. Maybe the clue’s in the stronger Betfair markets available in races staged over here.
August 17, 2009 at 17:31 #244332Glenn
Most likely it’s because they can’t get a run on the All Weather at
Dundalk. I haven’t checked but I would imagine Dundalk handicaps are regularly over-subscribed.It’s pretty much the same in some Northern jumps races. Perth maiden hurdles are dominated by Irish horses struggling to get a run in a similar event at home. 12 Irish runners out of 15 was one extreme example.
Rob
August 17, 2009 at 19:10 #244348Does it matter where they’re trained. A horse is a horse.
August 18, 2009 at 16:22 #244515Just as I have been pointing out, the decline in English racing.
August 18, 2009 at 16:35 #244521Dispirited as ever Tom, all you have to do now is prophesies the end of the world, then we’re in real trouble
August 18, 2009 at 16:37 #244522I recall a Prix de L’abbaye about 15/20 years ago – may have been Dayjur’s year – where the entire field was English or Irish trained!
Sad that English trainers (Stoutey excepted as presumably TT had a legit withdrawl reason) cannot even chase 5th / 6th prizemoney.
August 18, 2009 at 16:40 #244524Tartan Bearer drifted to 13s a couple of days before it pulled out. I wouldn’t trust Stoute either to be honest.
August 18, 2009 at 17:09 #244526I’m really excited about this weeks racing; Tom, you’re not a dementor are you?
August 18, 2009 at 17:35 #244531Is it any wonder that the Epsom Derby could not get a sponsor/And that the Irish derby is sponsored by Dubai. Where will Juddmonte go next? Or the King George? Will they run the Juddmonte at the Curragh?
August 18, 2009 at 18:23 #244539Just as I have been pointing out, the decline in English racing.
Private Fraser: We’re doomed, I tell ye!
August 18, 2009 at 20:33 #244578Tom, you’re not a dementor are you?
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August 18, 2009 at 22:35 #244609Graysons i am very dissapointed in you
Thought you would have mentioned the infamous 3m2f Novice Chase at Cartmel with only two runners when Jimmy Lambe supplied them both.
August 18, 2009 at 23:57 #244625Was that novice race at Cartmel a Group One ?
August 19, 2009 at 00:25 #244631Was that novice race at Cartmel a Group One ?
It was in Mr. Graysons opinion!!!
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