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December 6, 2006 at 20:16 #32978
Cut the guy some slack. He gave us the arc winner at 20/1 weeks in advance. Just unfortunate for him it paid 24/1 on the day.
December 6, 2006 at 20:16 #32979Not read The Weekender article, but if he’s saying the same as on his website
I honestly don’t understand why the British racing press seem so keen on Kauto Star. The top three Irish chasers Kicking King, War Of Attrition and Beef Or Salmon all routinely run six to twelve lengths faster over three miles according to my speed ratings
<br>I can see nothing wrong in it
December 6, 2006 at 20:24 #32980The fact that Mordin fails to understand in this context is that races are not run in order for horses to achieve the fastest possible times. That simply is not their purpose.
As a result, overall race times do not always reflect precisely the true merits of the horses. Analysis of overall race times is therefore useful only part of the time, no matter how much he pretends otherwise.
December 6, 2006 at 20:26 #32981Someone with a logical mind would have grasped this long ago: he has had it pointed out to him.
December 6, 2006 at 20:27 #32982Apologies Clivex didn’t see you’d copied the same statement
<br>This is the key part imo ÂÂÂ
according to my speed ratings
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(Edited by empty wallet at 9:22 pm on Dec. 6, 2006)
December 6, 2006 at 20:33 #32983I entered this discussion because someone made the statement that they thought that Mordin was about applying logic.
Thank you for making my case, empty.
December 6, 2006 at 20:45 #32984Thats it Pru,
He’s using his figures,  his figures are telling him different to others and he’s telling us what they are telling him
What is wrong with that?
<br>We could debate the why’s and where for’s, but Mordin seems not to have gone into any detail on this from what i can gather<br>
(Edited by empty wallet at 9:23 pm on Dec. 6, 2006)
December 6, 2006 at 20:45 #32985no problem empty :)
Prufrock summed it up nicely…
December 6, 2006 at 21:31 #32986He’s using his figures, his figures are telling him different to others and he’s telling us what they are telling him
What is wrong with that?
He should ignore them and go with the general consensus, of course.
Because the general consensus is always right…
December 6, 2006 at 21:37 #32987He can do what he likes. But he, and his apologists, should not try to pass off stupidity as "logic". Trying to pretend that overall race times are the sole measure of how good a horse is, which is what he is doing here and has done countless times before, comes into that category.
(Edited by Prufrock at 9:39 pm on Dec. 6, 2006)
December 6, 2006 at 21:57 #32988His "apologists"? Jesus, enough of the hyperbole. You’d swear he was a Holocaust-denier.
December 6, 2006 at 21:58 #32989He should ignore them and go with the general consensus, of course.
Presumably that was what he was trying to avoid in chapter six of "Winning Without Thinking".
It is entitled "Force equals mass over acceleration".
Newton’s second law states that force equals mass TIMES acceleration.
But what did Newton know, and shouldn’t Mordin be congratulated on being "different"?
December 6, 2006 at 22:02 #32990Wow, picking him up on an editorial gaffe. Classy stuff.
December 6, 2006 at 22:02 #32991APOLOGIST n. a person who argues in defence or justification of another person or cause.
December 6, 2006 at 22:04 #32992This is the same person who argues that weight has a negative effect.
Still, at least he’s being different, eh?
December 6, 2006 at 22:09 #32993Wow, that’s me convinced.
Erm, a negative effect on what?
December 6, 2006 at 22:14 #32994An effect opposite to that described by the laws of physics.
If F=m/a is a genuine mistake then I will remove that objection. But Mordin plays fast and loose with facts throughout that particular book. Presumably because it enables him to be "different".
(Edited by Prufrock at 10:15 pm on Dec. 6, 2006)
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