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Think Aiden knows who his jockey is going to be in truth, has to be someone with excellent record with horses running over 8-12f whilst having good expieriance world wide and it can only be Fallon?
Drowne, Callan and Robinson all tied down to very good jobs yet have excellent records over 8-12f, would one of those happen to leave I am sure David Probert would be a more than able replacement for the departed.
Exciting times but can’t see much further than Fallon to be honest, maybe Heffernan or Colm will get their chance although you feel it would have been tied up by now if they really wanted it.
J.Fortune or C.ODonoghue. What I cannot understand is why O’Donoghue never went overseas to learn his trade. Seems like his only outside job was with Marnane this year.Hardly paying your dues to be top jockey in Europe.Can the "Lads" afford the luxury of this plan?I will be surprised if they do.So I go for the Group One jockey for the week ends and the local boy for the local races.Fortune or Fallon for the week ends and O’Donoghue for the local tracks and second string on weekends.
I don’t understand why Fortune is 66/1, I really don’t. He gave Rip Van Winkle a great ride in the Eclipse last year, was near perfect.
I don’t understand why Fortune is 66/1, I really don’t. He gave Rip Van Winkle a great ride in the Eclipse last year, was near perfect.
That makes two of us.
There’s so many names ahead of him in the betting that I’d be putting a big black line through for a variety of reasons.
Fortune ticks more boxes for me than most of the other contenders:
– Big race experience
– Not attached to a big yard at the moment
– Irish, so would have few reservations about moving here
– Brings no real baggage with him
– Has worked with Aidan previously (at Jim Bolger’s)Nice article in today’s RP in which James Willoughby has a look at Fallon, in the context that fallon seems to be bucking a perception which suggests jockeys become less effective as they get older. Very entertaining read.
This whole fuss about who will take over Johnny Murtagh is rather amusing. If Ballydoyle and the jockeys considered for the job want to solve this nice and easy, they should throw a race with all the top form horses, one for each jockey. Winner gets weekends, second gets maidens.
I don’t understand why Fortune is 66/1, I really don’t. He gave Rip Van Winkle a great ride in the Eclipse last year, was near perfect.
That makes two of us.
There’s so many names ahead of him in the betting that I’d be putting a big black line through for a variety of reasons.
Fortune ticks more boxes for me than most of the other contenders:
– Big race experience
– Not attached to a big yard at the moment
– Irish, so would have few reservations about moving here
– Brings no real baggage with him
– Has worked with Aidan previously (at Jim Bolger’s)Since Jimmy Fortune appears to be a very good jockey, it may not be his jockeyship that caused the split with John Gosden before the 2010 season began, after a five year association. Although it was denied at the time, it can’t have helped the situation that the stable jockey lived a long way away from the stable. There were some words from John Gosden at the second Breeders Cup after he chose a different jockey from Fortune, that I interpreted (perhaps wrongly) that there might have been times when Fortune was not able to commit totally to the stable’s cause, and therefore it was felt that that situation could work both ways. If it is the case that Fortune is looking for a good balance between his life inside and outside racing, it may not fit in with the high pressure job at Ballydoyle.
Happened in 2008 and 2009, Gosden put Frankie on his rides, and said it was due to the owners.
Happened in 2008 and 2009, Gosden put Frankie on his rides, and said it was due to the owners.
From the Guardian 21/01/10
Visibly agitated when quizzed by reporters over the situation, Gosden said: "It was a very difficult decision and not one I found easy to make. It is not my fault that my normal jockey has not experienced racing on American racetracks.”
Maybe Gosden thought that Fortune could have spent a bit of one of his Winter breaks riding in the USA to broaden his international experience. Gosden trained for quite a time in the USA before taking out a licence in the UK. He has a lot of contacts there. Maybe he wanted a jockey who would relish riding in the USA, Dubai, Japan, Hong Kong, etc when there was big money on offer, and was willing to go and get the necessary experience.Whether we like it or not Gosden did not support Fortune’s claim to ride for him in the US. He brought Buick the next year with absolutely no experience of the US.
Whether we like it or not Gosden did not support Fortune’s claim to ride for him in the US. He brought Buick the next year with absolutely no experience of the US.
Geoff Lester – Eveening Standard
23.08.10Gosden, who trained in California for 10 years before returning home in 1988, said: "I got some stick when I let Jimmy go but I have to look to the future, and, whereas Jimmy never ever spread his wings and attempted to gain experience of American racing, William set about to do just that when he was in his teens and I think that is important.
William used to ride out regularly in the winter months in the States, getting used to the pace of races out there, and with racing having become so much more global these past couple of decades, I decided that I better try and sign him up before anybody else gets hold of him.”
Buick was riding in Dubai last Winter when he received the phone call from Gosden offering him the job. His father was a jockey in several European countries and William travelled around a lot with him.
j.fortune swapped stables with buick not long ago so why would he change again to aob?
Hi MV. I consider that stuff as dissimulating baloney.He was responding to the Arabs who wanted Dettori.What was all the talk about Fortune not being fully fit? Was that really true or was it just more of the same crap? Cecil had no problem bringing out Queally to ride with no American experience.Maybe the Kerry strand was what was needed.
Hi MV. I consider that stuff as dissimulating baloney.He was responding to the Arabs who wanted Dettori.What was all the talk about Fortune not being fully fit? Was that really true or was it just more of the same crap? Cecil had no problem bringing out Queally to ride with no American experience.Maybe the Kerry strand was what was needed.
OK, I’ll rise to the bait while it’s still warm in California, and about to be 80 mph gales with heavy rain in the dark of the night here. What is a Kerry strand, if not one of the best places to haul in ten pound sea bass if you are a good fisherman and lucky ? How does it relate to Fortune?
Hi MV. I consider that stuff as dissimulating baloney.He was responding to the Arabs who wanted Dettori.What was all the talk about Fortune not being fully fit? Was that really true or was it just more of the same crap?
Dont think Sheikh Mo ever forgave Fortune for the Sussex defeat, Andy. His decision to put Dettori up at Santa Anita was very much vindicated don’t you think? He displayed his prowess on tight American tracks again last weekend. Flat ride of the year on the Meehan beast, imo.
Poetry in motion when he’s on song.
There is no doubt on continental Europe and the tight US tracks Dettori is the very best in the Mundo.No question. Kerry strand is any strand(beach)where the ponies race in Ireland. Where most kids get their first taste of jockeyship.If my memory serves me correctly.Read Pegg Seyers "Mo sceal fein" (My Own Story) or see "the Quiet Man", to get the flavor.
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