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On Friday Boris while confirming Sizewell Boris knocked Labour for not doing more to provide suitable power stations for the future when in power …..the Tories have had 12 years to fix this mistake , but hey let’s not dwell on that …the Tory slogan for 2022 ” if in doubt blame Labour ” , it’s ridiculous
1.01 Truss, 60 Sunak – result at 12.30pm today.
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Here is an extract from the Labour Party manifesto 1997
“We see no economic case for the building of any new nuclear power stations.”Hmm…..basically that was economic madness from Blair.
And when it comes to the gas storage problem again, both parties failed.
Sir Jim Ratcliffe, Ineos, approached Blair and Brown in 1999, with a plan to increase UK gas storage capability – he was turned down. Then in 2010 he went to the Coalition govt with same proposal – again, turned down.Truss wins comfortably enough, though not perhaps by the kind of margin being forecast at some stages.
Betfair Exchange reacted by Labour going 1.98 from 2 for most seats with Tories 2.02 from 2.
The pound weakened a bit on the result which I suspect has already been largely factored in.
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"57-43, and couldn’t even get half the membership to turn out for her. Coupled with the fact that her own MPs rejected her she’s starting from a position of incredible weakness.
Just as well that if you don’t like this former Lib Dem, anti-monarchy, pro-EU, Thatcher hating PM’s principles, she has others.
For sure, the parliamentary party will now be “uniting” behind a PM for who support was a distinct slow burner – and never more than ultimately lukewarm – during the parliamentary vote.
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"One positive of the ridiculous length of the contest for Labour is that it has given them plenty of ammunition when, like you say Ian, they are suddenly ‘united’ and for the inevitable U turns on things she’s said she’ll do. The last six weeks of footage should be a goldmine on that front.
We may be relying deeply on the “handy hints” thread to survive the next two years, but it isn’t half going to be entertaining.
Comfortably the least able PM in my lifetime, even makes Johnson look good, it’s going to be quite a ride.
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"My hope is that we get an election before then. Very much hope, not expectation. If things do turn out as disastrously as they could, there will be a lot of calls for one. Another leadership contest would be ridiculous and we all know who’d win.
Once the Leadership dust settles, the next 18 months are all about energy, cost of living, jobs, health service, etc.
If HMG can steer the UK thru the next 18 months and ‘we’ come out the other side in better shape then Starmer’s Labour will be up against it.
Truss and co actually have their chance to make their mark. Whether she and ‘they’ can deliver only time will tell.Starmer’s Labour may be riding high in the polls at the mo, but they still have to convince the self employed, the white van peeps, the retired wealthy that they wont revert to ‘type’.
“they still have to convince the self employed, the white van peeps, the retired wealthy that they wont revert to ‘type’.”
And they have no chance of doing so, because all the groups you mention are typically consumers of the rightwing media, who will be doing everything they can to vilify Labour, and Starmer in particular, between now and the next general election.
“….typically consumers of the rightwing media,”
What a typically lazy, predictable narrative
No, these groups look to protect their wealth, and if they feel threatened by a progressive Labour party they’ll vote against them. So, Starmer and co need to tread carefully.
“What a typically lazy, predictable narrative“
It also happens to be true. Look up the stats; they’re freely available online.
‘the self employed, the white van peeps, the retired wealthy’
This is also a lazy stereotype. If the Tories or Labour rely on their ‘traditional support base’ it isn’t going to end well for them. I’m in Tory country in the South West and they still have a lot of support but the Lib Dems are gaining.
In my view, the centre right broadcast and print media has an effect, but large swathes of the UK don’t need convincing, let alone brain washing.
However, the longer a Party governs the harder it is to be credible on fixing things they’ve had years in office to fix already and the less tenable it is to hold the opposition responsible for their own Parties’s failings when last in office.
Labour’s never had a decent energy policy?
What position was Starmer in to affect that 1997-2010?
What position of power did he hold in those Labour governments?
You might as well blame him for anything Clement Attlee got wrong in 1945.
I don’t see the Tories winning a majority in 2024, but tbh I don’t see Labour winning one either – Truss will be a terrible PM but don’t underestimate the impact of the boundary changes in the Tories’s favour.
It’s just a question of who wins most seats.
Right now, for the first time since 2019, I think it might be Labour.
Just!
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