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  • #1569219
    Avatar photoEx RubyLight
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    They could have waited another five minutes until finally decinding to jump off….

    #1569221
    Avatar photoThe Tatling Cheekily
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    Surely Jonbon, in particular, was wasting energy prancing around on the spot like that. Jockeys all were worried about ignoring their instructions I’m sure, but a bit of common sense has to come in to it.

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    The chap with the long tom needs to get busy like:

    That might rattle them up a bit.

    #1569227
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    The start was a farce but the race was OK when it finally happened. The right horses filled the frame so the form has a solid look.

    Aidan Coleman was interviewed on RTV and said the problem was it was a novice race and everyone was under instructions to get their horses settled. He said if it was a handicap with experienced horses which you knew would jump well, someone would have seized the initiative earlier.

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    I thought that was a pretty electric performance from Jonbon on debut. Unfortunately Ian Bartlett seemed to think otherwise, as he sounded utterly bored on commentary and successfully managed to remove all excitement from the finish.

    He’s done this before, making big moments sound like three-runner sellers.

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    Bartlett seems to be bored more often in recent times. I fully agree that the right horse won and he also is a proper G1 novice in the making. The 570k are still quite a lot, but may in 2-3 years time we might be proved otherwise.

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    I literally cannot listen to the fella.

    Even when he called Frankel as being 15 lengths clear at the Bushes in the 2,000 Guineas, he sounded slightly aggrieved at having to report an exciting development.

    Had him on mute ever since.

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    #1569284
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    And Frankel never was fifteen lengths clear. If there’s one thing a commentator needs to be, it’s accurate.

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    A fuss over nothing, can’t see it makes any difference whether they start when the starter drops his flag or 90 seconds later, if that’s what the jockeys want to do. It’s called tactics.

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    Yes Ian Bartlett in the big race today “THERE ARE TWO FENCES TO JUMP”, yeah we fecking know…..

    #1569528
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    “A fuss over nothing, can’t see it makes any difference whether they start when the starter drops his flag or 90 seconds later, if that’s what the jockeys want to do. It’s called tactics.”

    How long would you limit that nonsense to then? 90 seconds? Two minutes? 10 minutes? An hour?

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    Why bother about something that rarely if ever happens The Tatling Cheekily? I can’t recall it ever happening for a hour, 10 minutes or 2 minutes etc. Just pretend they’re milling around at the start or an incompetent starter has taken 2 or 3 goes at starting them.
    Far more important things in racing to worry about than jockeys occasionally taking a few seconds to get going.

    #1569535
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    I just find Bartlett’s tone: affected, pompous, boring.

    But I must confess there are very few commentators who don’t compel me to deploy the mute button.

    Very few seem capable of simply doing the job in a useful functional fashion, briskly calling the order from first to last, including who is making headway and who is dropping back, continually throughout the race.

    If you listen to John Hunt, for example, the field can travel half a mile before he’s worked his way from first to last in an eight-runner field, such is his obsession with telling you who’s after a double, returning from injury, or had cornflakes for breakfast.

    A few of them simply do the job in a useful fashion – but only a few.

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    #1569538
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    As I said on the Labdroke thread, Bartlett completely failed to notice the favourite start to struggle and lose his position. You would think he might keep an eye out for the horse most punters have backed.

    #1569540
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    You’re right about John Hunt Ian.

    I recorded the 5 Live coverage of Cheltenham just to see what it was like last year. If I hadn’t already watched the races I wouldn’t have had a clue what was going on for most of them as he rarely gave you a rundown of where horses were which you would have thought was the main priority on a radio commentary.

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    #1569541
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    Sadly, most commentators disappear up their own backsides once they settle into the job.

    The best ones are often the newest – they probably feel on probation and just crack on and do the job the way it’s meant to be done.

    Hunt seems an affable guy, but the amount of actual information he conveys to his audience is shockingly low.

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    Avatar photoNathan Hughes
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    Was funny.
    Jonbon looked good
    What do you think would have happened if they had starting stalls?
    I can’t imagine they would have all walked out of them. Something would have jumped out at least probably all of them at least at half pace as not to concede to much ground

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