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Neil’s Weekend Handicap : Season 2 : Week 17

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  • #1582521
    Red Rum 77
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    February 12th 2022

    Rules

    1 Anyone can enter, just put your selections down on this thread. You can change your mind as often as you like but don’t edit your previous post just put in a new one. I’ll only consider your current instructions. You have up to race time to do this.

    2 You must have a win selection and an each way selection. They must be different horses and I’ll calculate them according to your instructions. You may have as many or few reserves as you like. These reserves only count if any of your main runners fail to run. Even if they down at start and do a KING’S JOHN CASTLE on you.
    That’s refuse to race. I’ll only calculate your actual runners, and your substitute will only be used the way you’ve written them.

    3 This competition will last until 23rd April (Whitbread day so that’s 26 weeks).

    4 I may occasionally go for an Irish race. I will be looking for the best alternative race at another venue just in case the weather intervenes. (If all weather racing is on, then it may be this). Sorry to those who don’t like AW but as I’m putting the race up midweek I’ve no idea on how the weather will behave on Saturday. If both races are cancelled then the will be no race for that week.

    5 You only need to partake in 16 weeks minimum to qualify for a prize. Should you have less than 16 weeks I’ll still keep check on score but it’ll just be placed in a sub list and you won’t qualify for any prize.

    6 Prize money. I’m upping the prize to £50 for the winner, £35 for the runner up, £15 for the third. £10 for the best forecast. If more than one is tied for best forecast then I’ll take the straight way over the reserve way. Still trouble in splitting then those in the earliest week. So for example TFK get £704.25 in week 6 and Nathan equals it in week 7. Then the prize goes to TFK however should both pick the winning forecast in the same week then I’ll split that prize.

    7. I’m upping the stakes to £50 win, £25 EW and £1 C.S.F. (reverse) meaning each selections are £102 if both horses run. Or £50 if only 1 ran. All you need to do is state WIN or EACH WAY. It’s still a quarter the odds for a place.

    A few people got confused over the scoring so for transparency I’ll give an example.

    Win – Johnny Drama 22/1

    EW – Cockalorum 40/1
    Johnny Drama would return £1,150 Cockalorum would return £275 and the forecast returns £704.53
    This can be workout by going to the site https://www.free-bet-calculator.co.uk/

    I workout the profit by adding all payouts so in this case the payout is £2,129.53 subtract the cost £102 which leaves £2,027.53 as profit.
    If only one of your horses ran then I would deduct 50 from your previous score before adding any winnings.*

    8 Places will be the equivalent to Bookmakers standards for up to 20 runners;
    that 2 for 5 to 7;
    3 for 8 to 15;
    4 for 16 to 20.
    However for races with 21 to 24 I’m going 5 places, 25 to 28 6 places : anything above that 7 places.
    Should something refuse to race and reduces the number of places because of it, I’ll will still count the extra place. So if 25 horses line up but one refuses then I’ll still treat it like a 25 horse race. If however it doesn’t even make the line up then the places does go down to the lower limit.

    With poor size field in the UK (TV races) must look elsewhere for my main race.

    So whether the weather permits going to Ireland

    NAAS 3.25 Adare Manor Opportunity Handicap Hurdle With the going soft at the moment it might be worthwhile keeping an eye on the alternative race which is

    NEWBURY 3.35 Betfair Hurdle , the second alternative is on the all weather
    LINGFIELD 2.20 Betway Handicap

    Leaderboard after sixteenth week.

    1 DFWARD +2038.75 (#1)
    2 WYLDESYDE +1245.00 (#1)
    3 THE KRYPTON FACTOR +968.73 (#2)
    4 MICHAEL WALSH +707.50
    5 BOB ROLF +185.08
    6 NATHAN HUGHES +170.18
    7 SEA PIDGEON +68.88 (#2)
    8 GREENASGRASS -7.00
    9 RAYMO61 -123.89 (#1)
    10 QUELLE FARCE -179.24 (#3)
    11 ROBNORTH -198.75
    12 YAHOO -214.55 (#2)
    13 MIDDLE OF MARCH -445.00 (#5)
    14 EUROALIEN -555.00
    15 JOHN GOOCH -556.99
    16 VENTURE TO COGNAC -643.87
    17 RED RUM 77 -757.00
    18 BIG G -811.17
    19 TRIPTYCH -875.13
    20 STEVE75 -1005.00 (#1)

    Best forecast 88.49 THE KRYPTON FACTOR & RAYMO61 (Week 1) (reversed way)

    SUBLIST

    MINCAMUS -258.50
    EP 1987 -328.75

    The best things in life are free.
    But you can give them to the birds and bees.

    #1582535
    Red Rum 77
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    Don’t forget, Bob the main race is 3.25 Naas unless weather interferes

    The best things in life are free.
    But you can give them to the birds and bees.

    #1582546
    Red Rum 77
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    Noted, I really wanted it to be the main race myself, but disappointed by the number of runners in the fields of Newbury. The effects of Cheltenham I assume.

    The best things in life are free.
    But you can give them to the birds and bees.

    #1582553
    Avatar photoQuelle Farce
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    A low-grade guessing game in Ireland rather than that most valuable handicap hurdle of the season? Is that really what we signed up for?

    I’m disappointed. The Betfair is still super-competitive and I am sure that at least the first 10 in the betting would all get selected to win by one or other of us.

    Sorry to be critical but I think this is fair comment. How many of us will pop in here to list our Betfair picks, presuming it to be the obvious option, and instead we’ve got some non-event we don’t care about with the bottom weight rated at 84? There’s not even a price on offer that I can find for any of them in the race, so how can we play along without knowing what price anything is?

    Anyway, I’ll nominate my three as follows:
    Win – I Dont Get It
    EW – Init Together

    Selected by name alone, like your granny used to do. I dont get this choice of race, so ‘I Dont Get It’ is my tip. Get it? ;) At least we are all equally ignorant, so ‘Init Together’ seems apt too.

    I don’t know the form and haven’t got the time or inclination to plough through 26 horses’ worth of form to establish a well-considered selection. Which is a shame, I really enjoy making my selection for this competition every Friday and seeing what everyone else chooses, and then coming back in to see how many of us were right.

    #1582564
    Red Rum 77
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    Fair comments QF I tried to pick the most competitive, probably your right. Making a consecutive decision to move the main race to Betfair Hurdle.

    The best things in life are free.
    But you can give them to the birds and bees.

    #1582600
    Avatar photoEuroalien
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    I have to agree with you QF, you make some excellent points. Any of the top 10 in the betting can win the Betfair.

    No offense intended Neil, I appreciate you running a comp for us all to enjoy.

    #1582602
    John Gooch
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    Hello to all of you.

    A case I think of the Road To Hell being paved by good intentions.

    I have a suspicion that Quelle Farce speaks for most of us and I
    do have to say that I agree with his views.

    Many Thanks :good:

    #1582607
    Avatar photoQuelle Farce
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    That’s very gracious, thanks for that.

    LOL, now I’m under pressure to get close to a winner in the Betfair now!!

    Also, what Euroalien said.

    #1582608
    greenasgrass
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    I’ve whinged enough in the past wanting Irish races to be included but agree with the consensus on this one. Kudos to Rummy for his decision to consider feedback and change tack with good grace. You don’t always get that on t’internet these days although this forum is quite civilised.

    Win JPR One
    EW Royaume Uni
    Res Boothill

    #1582633
    Avatar photorobnorth
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    Only problem I had with the Naas contest was that I have found Irish handicap hurdles totally unfathomable, but they are probably meat and drink to some!

    Meanwhile back on my familiar old home territory of Newbury:

    Win – Broomfield Burg
    Each-Way – Royaume Uni
    Reserve – Soaring Glory

    #1582647
    Red Rum 77
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    Having already an Ante Post selections and same 2 in VTC’s 10 to follow it’s quite easy this race.

    WIN KNAPPERS HILL

    EW JPR ONE

    RES : BROOMFIELD BURG

    The best things in life are free.
    But you can give them to the birds and bees.

    #1582678
    Avatar photoTheKryptonFactor
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    Win – Jpr One (Jetoile)

    EW – Howdyalikemenow (Fifty Ball)

    #1582696
    Avatar photoNathan Hughes
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    Win – First Street
    EW – Knappers Hill
    Sub – JPR One
    2nd sub – I Dont Get It
    3rd sub – Init Together

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    #1582703
    Avatar photodfward
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    I am confused now so here are my selections for both races.. Looking at the complainants past selections i would have thought that you can’t do any worse at Naas

    Win.. Whiskey Lullaby (Fair Minded)
    EW.. I Don’t Get It (Malbas)

    Newbury 3.35

    Win… Broomfield Burg (Jetoile)
    EW… Tritonic (Royaume Uni)

    #1582727
    mike2084
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    3:35 Newbury Broomfield Burg Win
    Royaume Uni EW

    #1582728
    Avatar photowyldesyde
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    Royaume Uni
    WIN
    Jetoile
    EW

    #1582740
    Avatar photoTriptych
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    Jpr One .. WIN
    Knappers Hill .. EW

    Boothill .. Reserve

    :good:

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