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There is little point to a thread like this. Just decends in to a Flat V Jumps rubbish. Both codes are great for different reasons so will both have their fans. Does not mean one is "better" than the other.
Well said. Unfortunately, any number of these threads appear each year. They’re tedious.
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I agree with you GT (for once – lol) in that summer jumps should be banned. National Hunt starts in october. You are also correct (getting scary now) in that this has become flat v jumps. Certainly wasn’t my intention and wanted some serious (all be it very early, national hunt chat and SERIOUS opinions). Put this one down to experience (or lack of it on here).
If anyone would differ to my view that First Lieutenant will win (injury free) next years RSA on bridle?? or anything else October onwards then I would love to hear it.
Wildething – if – if – it’s muddy, then Back In Focus will spring a suprise.
Other horses I’m excited about – Weapon’s Amnesty, Burton Port, Quito De La Roque, Quinz, Arctic Cosmos, Peddlers Cross, Outlaw Tom and First Lieutenant..and that’s not to mention the big names.
BlueSky @pghenn.bsky.social
So don't run, just like the others always do
"WILDETHING" wrote: If anyone would differ to my view that First Lieutenant will win (injury free) next years RSA on bridle??
One of his biggest dangers could well be the Sir Des Champs of the same ownership
NH racing stirs the blood in a way that flat racing never could.
You obviously never watched Persian Punch race.
One thing to keep in mind though , last year the amount of fatalities between Jan and March was excessive , the soft heavy ground takes it’s toll too heavily in my view
Apart from that surely a great spectacle to look forward to , it is without doubt more exciting than flat racing , just wish we could reduce the war of attrition on the horses somehow , otherwise eventually it will be banned or restricted too much
Ricky
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Good shout there THM with Sir Des Champs. No doubting the ability and potential of a lot more to come and with it being trained by mullins means its going to be favourite for whatever race it goes for. Means the rest get overpriced usually (a la ‘so young’ in neptune) Oh course FT wont win an RSA on bridle but first time I watched him (beating zaidpour) just screamed RSA in 2012. If he can win a quality Neptune field when not a natural hurdler he must be something special (no talk of him being lucky winner either!). Any talk of running in Arkle is ridiculous. One thing for sure – the Irish have an abundance of talent with stayers. Bostons, Weapons Am, Magnanimity, Quito de la,Pando, etc. Other point would like some feedback on is ‘do we think Long Runs GC victory was that good a performance’? Im still undecided. Instinct tells me that as good a race it was to watch, he beat to 2 great horses who were sadly in decline.
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It can’t come soon enough for me. I like the flat right rnough but it can be such a pisser it’s almost unbeleivable.
I couldn’t care two hoots about the guineas or any of that bar the derby. The high watermark of the flat season is hard work if you ask me. Too much guesswork.
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Look at the result of the 7.30 at Warwick if you want to know why people are put off the sport…
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It seems to me you don’t "like the flat right enough" at all.
The realist and the romantic in me struggle with it. Believe me or not I’m in profit through the winter, come spring I get uneasy because I know how difficult it can be to find winners and maintain interest. Insulting results, titchy-priced winners, borderline criminality, out-of-the-blue results, too much guesswork, lashings of sod’s law, major expense at the racetracks, sod the punter attitude from the jockey to the bookie and on a bad day you think: roll on the jumps. It is obviously a far more exciting sport than flat.
Can anyone honestly deny any of it? It just depends on your attitude. This forum is very anorak (that’s why Potts came out over Nevison in a popularity contest) and it’s all about Frankel etc but though he is exciting to watch where’s his value? EtcImpotentiary, you are a tit
Apologies for the pejorative and rather strange comparison with an attractive little bird, or as Pinza and detractors might prefer, the
ad hominem
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Impotentiary, you are a tit
Apologies for the pejorative and rather strange comparison with an attractive little bird, or as Pinza and detractors might prefer, the
ad hominem
If you CAN deny what I have listed as being the chief pissers of flat racing please do so. They may not bother you but they are part of it. They bother me less when I am winning but I am not foolish enough to think they don’t exist.
One thing to keep in mind though , last year the amount of fatalities between Jan and March was excessive , the soft heavy ground takes it’s toll too heavily in my view
Ricky
But then this year the worst time for falls and fatalities was surely March and April and was due to the dry, hard and very fast ground. Can’t win with our weather.
If you CAN deny what I have listed as being the chief pissers of flat racing please do so. They may not bother you but they are part of it. They bother me less when I am winning but I am not foolish enough to think they don’t exist.
This is reasonably diverting, or at least worth staying awake for
Firstly, the phrase "chief pissers" is new to me so I’d appreciate elucidation
Secondly, other than the above quibble I find your words somewhat worringly but nevertheless intriguingly may well bridge the
In medias res
‘twixt Kierkegaard and Nietzche
Existensialism’s an illusion innit?
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