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I see in the RP today, some of the trainers/jockeys have expressed concerns about potential problems with low sun on Saturday and are suggesting that some of the fences will have to be omitted/removed for the National.
I don’t ever remember this happening before although some of our older members may be able to help.
We here in Germay had a very polemic report concerning the GN yesterday late evening on tv. It was said, that in the races since 1997 35 horse died in due course of the races after accidents in the race. Is this true – to me this seems to be an exaggeration?
By the way, the race itself has not been televised here for many years and our sport-commentators haven’t any knowledge or experience in horse-racing. especially NH-sport.
I can’t see low sun being an issue this time of year, its usually a problem that occurs in autumn and winter, not in BST. I’m guessing it must me an April Fool or something.
april fools
haha i remeber when they said about using traffic lights at the start and something to do with first fence sun no prob at liverpool it always rains
vf
Date aside, imagine the following scenario:
There are fallers at the first fence. Two jockeys are injured, one on each side of the track.Both are attended by medical staff. Would the runners jump the seventeenth regardless? Would they have to queue up to trot around the inside? Would the race be stopped?
Rob
Date aside, imagine the following scenario:
There are fallers at the first fence. Two jockeys are injured, one on each side of the track.Both are attended by medical staff. Would the runners jump the seventeenth regardless? Would they have to queue up to trot around the inside? Would the race be stopped?
Rob
How about an army of "pace horses" to lead the field at a slow trot in single file until the danger was passed- Quixall Cossett could come out of retirement to do the job….
We here in Germay had a very polemic report concerning the GN yesterday late evening on tv. It was said, that in the races since 1997 35 horse died in due course of the races after accidents in the race. Is this true – to me this seems to be an exaggeration?
There certainly haven’t been 35 fatalities in the National since that period – maybe over the course of 10 three-day meetings, but even then the figure seems a little over the odds.
It wasn’t a piece of sensationalist toss from RTL or similar, was it?
gc
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Thanks graysonscolumn,
I’ll try to research the racing-post-database for the casualties – but nevertheless further help to my question ist welcomed. Thxs in advance!
Surprisingly, that tv-program on the GN was broadcast by a regional channel (WDR3), who generally is known for "serious" productions, and more surprisingly, this program was not commentated by the journalist who is the official racing-expect of that channel. It seemed to me that this program was taken over by a British producer, an interview with a man of FAAC was the connecting link in a series of film-sequences that showed the most devasting falls from some 30 years of GN-racing.
Nevertheless we started a protest-action against the broadcasting channel by email for honest and trustworthy information on racing and not to broadcast that bullshit of lies and halftruths even on that controversial race.
Rob, they’d probably use the orange discs on each side of the fence to ensure that the field don’t jump where the injured jockeys are. They’ve done this in the past, I’m sure.
Concerning casualties I found this from "The Guardian", April 5th, 2006, saying 30 dead horses during all 3-day-GN-meetings since 1997, and not 3.5 killed horses per any GN-race since 1997:
Surprisingly, that tv-program on the GN was broadcast by a regional channel (WDR3), who generally is known for "serious" productions, and more surprisingly, this program was not commentated by the journalist who is the official racing-expect of that channel.
Hmm, very un-WDR-like behaviour! With courses such as Cologne in its catchment area it’s not even as if it could get away with brainwashing a complete horseracing backwater unchallenged, either (or think it could).
gc
Jeremy Grayson. Son of immigrant. Adoptive father of two. Metadata librarian. Freelance point-to-point / horse racing writer, analyst and commentator wonk. Loves music, buses, cats, the BBC Micro, ale. Advocate of CBT, PACE and therapeutic parenting. Aspergers.
By the way, the race itself has not been televised here for many years and our sport-commentators haven’t any knowledge or experience in horse-racing. especially NH-sport.
Bizarrely, the Grand National was shown in 2002 on my regional channel, SWR, on their Sunday night show ‘Sport in Dritten’. However, as Baden-Baden is in our area, maybe that’s the reason why! ARD Text (that’s Ceefax to the rest of us), also remarked on the race, but, memorably, named the second horse as ‘What’s Up Doc’!!!
Darren – AngloGerman
Joking aside it is only a matter of time before The Chair and Water are dolled off for some bizarre reason. Those people with the dolls can’t wait to spring into action, like they seem to do at nearly every other course now.
Surprise, surprise the 35 figure is the one being bandied about by our "friends" at Animal Aid and is their take on the mumber of fatalities at the Grand National Festival as a whole since 1997.
I’m looking forward to having a "chat" with these numpties at Aintree on Thursday
presuming they are capable of a meaningful conversation.Well, @paulostermeyer, this (35 dead horses) is in accordance with the linked "The Guardian"-article from April 2006 – thank you. But the tv-program on WDR3 said: 35 dead horses solely in the GN-races since 1997 and so they came to 3.5 killed horses on average in any annual running of the Grand National Steeplechase. And this is obviously an untrue statement – quod erat demonstrandum.
haha i remeber when they said about using traffic lights at the start and something to do with first fence 
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