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  • #1309858
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    Unfortunately another wonder filly retired:

    http://www.skysports.com/racing/news/12426/10947319/brilliant-filly-minding-the-winner-of-seven-group-one-races-has-been-retired

    Apologies if I have posted in the wrong place.

    #1309869
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    It is sad news, for all she has achieved I feel we never got to the bottom of her, I definitely think she had at least one Arc in her. Aidan described her as “one of the best fillies I’ve ever trained”, but frankly, I don’t think that does her justice. She is one of the best horses he’s ever trained, period.

    However, at least she is alive and well, with an exciting career as a broodmare ahead of her.

    On that topic, who would you like to see cover her first? Personally I’d love to see Caravaggio , but I doubt they’ll wait until he’s retired before covering her first. Coolmore’s modus operandi of late is all about breeding the Galileo line with more precocious speedsters, but I’d be kind of disappointed if her first foal was a War Front or Storm Cat.

    This would kind of go against that trend, but I’d love to see a Deep Impact x Minding foal. He’s really come into his own as a stallion these past couple of years, and the highly exciting September is a result of Deep Impact x Peeping Fawn, whose damsire is Sadler’s Wells, so there is precedent for that cross producing quality.

    Anyway, happy retirement Minding. I look forward to seeing your progeny – whomever their sire may be- out on the racetrack.

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    Could not agree more Voleur, pretty sure she would of equalled at least Frankels 10 G1 wins if staying sound this year.

    Happy retirement Queen Minding :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart:

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    I like the sound of a Minding/Deep Impact match-up.

    How about good old Excelebration? He is coming up through the tried-and-tested Coolmore method and upgrading his mares from a middling fee with his early crops. I think they’ll jack up the fee and let him loose with a few of their best mares in the next couple of breeding seasons.

    #1309873
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    A real top notch filly, I had her for the Guineas/Oaks double and had palpitations when Moore got her into trouble in the Oaks, her class saved his ass that day.

    Her full sister Conquest makes her debut at Leopardstown tonight and while she will probably need the race facing a team mate with a run already, I’ve had a bit on at 9/2 for Conquest to give her retired sister a boost.

    5.50 Leopardstown Conquest 9/2

    Sisters are doing it for themselves?

    Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.

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    Never going to win but Conquest ran a race full of promise and will come on for this. The commentators seemed to think otherwise but I felt Conquest is very much one for the future. To my eyes she is the one most likely in the long term.

    A very late foal (16th May) Conquest looks the part as a horse for next season and she should come on a ton from this effort.

    Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.

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    On the subject of potential stallions for Minding, perhaps fellow m.i.a superstar Almanzor could be the one.

    He’s from quite an unfashionable, but highly precocious family. His own sire Wootton Bassett was a very precocious 2 year old, and Almanzor himself is related to the likes of Air Force Blue, Do Re Mi Fa Sol, Hakeem, and more distantly, Ribchester . Wootten Bassett has established himself quite well with a very limited amount of foals, he is in fact Europe’s leading second season sire, Almanzor admittedly makes up a large chunk of those earnings.

    If Almanzor could pass on his father’s precocity, and his own ability to progress from 2 to 3, then he has the makings of a top class stallion.

    However, if Almanzor is retired for any disease related issues, there’s no way Coolmore would expose Minding and the foal to that risk.

    #1309906
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    Happy retirement Minding and make lots of pretty babies. :yes:

    Love the Caravaggio/Minding option Voleur what good looking progeny they would make.
    Will miss her but happy that she is retired safely.

    Was lucky enough to be there when she won the 1000 Guineas at Newmarket 2016 and whilst on the subject
    of that race any news on Ballydoyle and if she might be in foal and to whom? :mail:

    Things turn out best for those who make the best of how things turn out...
    #1309909
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    Ballydoyle went to Fastnet Rock

    #1309910
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    I imagine Minding will go to War Front.
    There’s a chance she might go to Caravaggio, Coolmore might roll the dice and support him big time, but that would be a major departure for them, they don’t usually support unproven stallions in a big way. And they don’t usually send their top mares to outside stallions (they own a substantial share in War Front).
    About 20 top Galileo mares have gone to War Front again this year, including Found, Misty For Me, Maybe, Was, Tapestry, Coolmore, Marvellous, ……. and about 30 mares in total.
    Can only assume they are seeing something in the yearlings and 2yos coming through from the War Front x Galileo cross. I guess Roly Poly and full brother U S Navy Flag are good results from the very small sample that have raced so far.

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    As uninspiring as I find that match up to be, I think you are probably right. Now that War Front is proven to be a sire of sires (The Factor is the sire of multiple Group winners), I think we are going to see more and more of his offspring coming through Coolmore. While the romantic in me wants to see a match made in heaven for Minding, ‘The Lads’ are all about nurturing those future stallion prospects.

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    Ballydoyle went to Fastnet Rock

    Thanks SS..look forward to seeing that little one light up the world. :rose:

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    #1310057
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    I loved Minding – brilliant filly, one of the best in a long time IMO. Looking forward to the baby Mindings.

    Cormack

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