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  • #57193
    Money on
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    Richard Hughes looks good winning on good things imo, Jamie Spencer is a top jock and can balance and settle a horse like i have never seen. Richard Hills is ok but Martin Dwyer is better and shud be the No.1 jock to Hamdan. Thing that annoys me about Hughes so much is he gives uo the ghost quickly and doesnt try his hardest at times to gain the best ultimate placing.

    #57195
    Maxilon 5Maxilon 5
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    Another 3-y-o maiden comes under scrutiny.  Forumite Sean Boyce in the booth suggest it’s the biggest response ever to a ride.

    Heavily backed Gosden inmate Venerable is challenged by unfancied stablemate Shavansky in the final furlong of a Chepstow maiden, but eventually prevails. TV racewatchers jam the e-switchboard complaining about the effort of Robert Havlin on the runner up.

    Fwiw, I thought the runner up was green and one paced and was beaten on merit.

    One word, gentleman. Coupling.:biggrin:

    #57198
    Lingfield
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    Interesting and probably fair assessment of the Chepstow race on the results section of the RP website, albeit a damning and sad indictment on the integrity of racing today

    #57202
    madman marz
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    Quote: from Lingfield on 5:54 pm on May 8, 2007[br]Interesting and probably fair assessment of the Chepstow race on the results section of the RP website, albeit a damning and sad indictment on the integrity of racing today<br>

    I was absoluetly amazed that neither the trainer or jockey was even asked for an explanation,  less obvious cases of cheating were punished by the stewards which usually consisted of lower profile trainers and jockeys. John Gosden of non questionable parentage, he would never cheat now would he ?.<br>Whats the point in asking for severer punishments for cheating, when certain individuals are allowed to get away scott free.

    Before anyone starts jumping to a defence, if you haven’t seen the race, then I recommend that you check it out on the ATR website. Has to be seen to be believed, the gambled on winner got 10 smacks of the whip with 8 of those pretty strong forehands by Hughes, while Havlin never even showed his horse the whip, and hardly broke sweat in pushing his horse out and only got beaten a lenght.

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    <br>MM,

    I don’t actually expect to get a reply, as your usual mode is to rant with your own special brand of 100% moral certainty and then ignore anyone that asks questions.

    But still here goes – unless you are a steward at Chepstow yourself, how do you know that no explanation was requested?

    AP

    #57205
    Anonymous
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    MM<br>Even with my glazed eyes and the poor picture on ATR video, I can clearly see R Havlin applying backhanders down the shoulder of the horse.<br>But then, my optic nerve does connect to a brain.:biggrin:

    #57207
    Money on
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    I do think Havlin wasnt to heavy handed on him inside the final furlong but was Shavanksy not also bet form 33s to 20s?<br>Ok obviously it wouldn’t take as much to move the market from 33s as it would from 7/2 to 2s. Madman no offence but you talk a bit like a BF forum regular.  

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    Nor1
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    AP<br>A bit rich having a go at mm and suggesting he ignores any questions asked.<br>I remember you stating that every winner of every race was dope tested and suggesting I knew little about racing. I was even given a detailed description of how the test was undertaken (which I was well aware off).<br>Yet you were factually incorrect. You never replied or acknowledged you had misinformed this forum.<br>We are all entitled to give our debatable opinions.  Erroneous facts are a different matter.

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    PompetePompete
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    The HRA website has now been updated a report of the Stewards Enquiry into Mia’s Boy is Here

    #57213
    madman marz
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    Quote: from apracing on 7:19 pm on May 8, 2007[br]<br>MM,

    I don’t actually expect to get a reply, as your usual mode is to rant with your own special brand of 100% moral certainty and then ignore anyone that asks questions.

    But still here goes – unless you are a steward at Chepstow yourself, how do you know that no explanation was requested?

    AP<br>

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    (Edited by madman marz at 7:35 am on May 9, 2007)

    #57214
    Glenn
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    I know schooling in public is against the rules. Is using the racecourse to audition for the chicken tonight ads also frowned upon? Apparently not.

    #57217
    yeatsyeats
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    The most amazing aspect of the Shavansky affair yesterday was that no stewards enquiry was immediately called. "They" had a "look" later in the day when told about public concern but soon cleared the ride. You’ve got to wonder whether they were even aware that the first two horses were trained by the same person.<br>How out of touch are some stewards? and you’ve got to wonder how many are totally clueless on the subject.<br>While Havlin is a poor jockey (I wouldn’t let him near any horse I owned) did he make sufficient effort to win the race? Not in my eyes and no danger of Havlin breaking any whip rules here. As JG later gave an "excuse" for Havlin being "easy" it beggars belief there was no enquiry.<br>The Chepstow stewards should be appearing at Shaftesbury Avenue.

    #57219
    madman marz
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    Quote: from apracing on 7:19 pm on May 8, 2007[br]<br>MM,

    I don’t actually expect to get a reply, as your usual mode is to rant with your own special brand of 100% moral certainty and then ignore anyone that asks questions.

    But still here goes – unless you are a steward at Chepstow yourself, how do you know that no explanation was requested?

    AP<br>

    <br>Just going on what I heard on ATR, AP

    #57221
    seabird
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    "But still here goes – unless you are a steward at Chepstow yourself, how do you know that no explanation was requested"

    From what I was told at Chester yesterday, the Chepstow stewards did have a look at the race but only after they were approached by a delegate of pressmen.

    Colin

    #57223
    roryrory
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    Most people are under the misapprehension that unless the stewards enquiry announcement is made over the public address, no enquiry is made. In fact this is only true where the result is in question. Many enquiries are heard which the public aren’t aware of, which then get reported on the HRA website which should be in your favourites folder if you’re a serious watcher of racing from a punting perspective. In this case it appears the stewards didn’t call the representatives in but I notice that Bernadette Quinn picked up a 10 day ban at that Chepstow meeting for a ride which caused little comment from punters.

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