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I am actually amazed that nobody already started a thread on Mia’s Boy. That horse was stopped big time, it smelled worse than a skunks tail. I hope Peter Chapple Hyam was not involved as I find him very likeable and forthcoming with no airs and graces about him, but the HRA need to investigate this "big time". As I am typing I don’t no wether connections were interviewed by the stewards into the running and riding of the horse, and please dont tell me Adrian mc Carthy rode a badly judged race he actually sat motionless for a few seconds in the straight to make sure the leaders were gone beyond recall, and with just hands and heels riding the horse flew into third. As I have said, " it absoluetly stank of skullduggery".
Please dont tell me thats all I do moan about horses being stopped, even your 80 yr old grandmother would have smelt a rat. HRA do your job and see that justice is done even if it is too late for us disgruntled punters.
(Edited by madman marz at 8:32 am on May 5, 2007)
Quote: from thedarkknight on 8:59 am on May 5, 2007[br]Not sure about that – horse didn’t seem to handle the track at all and didn’t seem to know what he was doing until he reached the straight.
He has bags of ability, but I would suggest that he won’t be seen to best effect around the turns of Lingfield Park. A nice galloping track and a strong pace to run at – we will see a different horse.
A "please" Darkknight what race were you looking at ?, biggest and most obvious stopping job I have seen in ages. Horse broke ok than conveniently settled towards the rear, turning into the straight Jockeys realises horse is getting too close for comfort stops riding for a few strides lets them get beyond recall or so he thought but the horse was so far superior to the rest that he actually flew into third with the mininum assist from the saddle, Horse nearly made a mockery of the jockeys attempt to stop him. Actually Dark I am going to email get on ATR to see will they show a rerun of the race, if they do look at the race more closely, and come back to me if you change your mind.
"Actually Dark I am going to email get on ATR to see will they show a rerun of the race, if they do look at the race more closely, and come back to me if you change your mind"
I can’t see ATR showing a "rerun" of a race covered by Racing UK.
But they might show a re-run of Jamie Spencer’s ride on Best Prospect at Lingfield.
Ambled out of the stalls and never put into the race, first time on Polytrack and over a distance short of his optimum. Nice couple of reasons for the poor run!!!
Colin
Quote: from seabird on 9:39 am on May 5, 2007[br]"Actually Dark I am going to email get on ATR to see will they show a rerun of the race, if they do look at the race more closely, and come back to me if you change your mind"
Agree with you Seabird, about Best Prospect, but did Mia’s Boy not run in the last at Lingfield covered by ATR.<br>Actually Bird I emailed Tony Ennis and he is hoping to show the race on get on, he agrees with me he thought it looked awful. As for that hole in my pocket I cant do anything about it, but I hope the HRA investigate it thouroughly, and maybe some time in the future Darkknight this race might come up in one of the all too frequent race fixing scandals.
ATR are showing Lingfield at the moment if anyone is interested and the aforementioned race will be on in a couple of minutes.
Sorry, Madman, I am getting old and very confused.:(
For some reason I had the idea in my head that Goodwood was involved!!!!!!!!!!!:o
Colin
just watched it again yeats, horse jumped ok but Jockey made no attempt to push him allowed him to settle at the rear. "How Convenient"
Quote: from seabird on 9:39 am on May 5, 2007[br
But they might show a re-run of Jamie Spencer’s ride on Best Prospect at Lingfield.
Ambled out of the stalls and never put into the race
Colin<br>
Thought Best Prospect was settled well out the back and produced perfectly in the straight to make his effort but started to hang and continually change his legs, the horse ran a shocker but it looked like something was wrong with him.<br>I thought the same as you madman when first seeing Mia’s race, the jockey should have got after it much earlier, I think the likes of Spencer would have done. Maybe McCarthy’s just not a very good jockey, I certainly wouldn’t be using him if I owned a horse.
Regarding Mia’s Boy. I don’t think the ride was bent. I think you have a horse that for a start was priced up on what it supposedly does at home rather than on what he’s done on the racecourse. He then missed the break, didn’t travel all that well, his rider was shoving him along before halfway and gave him a reminder fully 4f out.
I agree it then doesn’t look good when he has him on the rail turning for home without making all that much effort but this is where it needs to be pointed out that the jockey was Adrian McCarthy. Having watched plenty of this guy in the winter, I’m of the opinion he couldn’t fight his way out of a paper bag. Take a look at hgis effort on the runner-up in the Grayson match race at the same track earlier in the season. A race at the time I cast aspertions on but am now happy to revise judgement.
I wouldn’t be in any hurry to back this horse to win his maiden at what willlikely be a short price next time. In terms of form, he’s probably run to a similar sort of level as when behind Adagio on his debut.
I think the horse didnt like the track and the surface, also the horse will be seen to better affect over at least 1m 2. The funny thing is if the horse had of been a 50/1 there wud of been no thread. I bet the horse myself but i think this thread is a pocket talking, In regards to the jockey not pushing him into a position well he looked to me like he was at him form the gate and the horse stayed on when he straigtened up.
Watched a replay on ATR. I agree that as they make the turn for home that the jockey was ‘considerate’, but the horse started slowly and clearly wasn’t enjoying himself, getting a smack early on.
"biggest and most obvious stopping job I have seen in ages"? Behave yourself. If it was, the jockey will be getting a right rollicking from connections for showing enough promise to ensure the horse will still be a short price next time out.
As an amusing aside to Mia’s Boy’s performance, WTF is the Racing Post reporter on about suggesting this has anything to do with Adagio’s chance in the Guineas? Hardly as though Adagio’s case rests on his maiden win is it.
Alright guys Tony Ennis is planning to show the race on Get On, just watch the start closely the horse jumped ok but jockey doesnt ride him for a few strides surprise surprise he ends up last. So why didn’t the jockey ride him for a more prominent position early ?? stopped thats why, and the more I look at it the angrier I get.<br>Yes Yes I am talking through my pocket, I dont mind losing fair and square but to be cheated out of my winnings by a crooked jockey or trainer bugs the sh-t out of me.
If you want to see a "steering Job" have a look at Black Oval 22nd Jan on ATR replay.
It’s reported elsewhere that McCarthy got a 14 day ban for the ride. If this is true or not is anyones guess. If it’s true it’s scandalous reporting from the Racing Post.
Yes, the horse was as green as grass and conditions weren’t ideal. Granted he was priced up on reputation as much as his one piece of form – there’s a reason for this: when a horse has run only once, against expectations, months of home work is a better predictor of likely performance.
Even so, the ride was shocking. As is often the case the market predicted it.
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