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Who wrote it? It’s unintentionally funny:
‘It’s not easy to win the national, but it’s easy to bet at william hill.’
ha bloody ha
Quite apart from the fact that a jockey is allowed to appear in a bookmaker’s advert…
As much as I respect AP and appreciate he has to go where the money is I am a little surprised this arrangement got past the relevant BHA authorities.
I don’t see why. Other sportsmen/women advertise all sorts of things so why shouldn’t jockeys?
It’s easy to bet at William Hill? Not if you want to get more than £25 on, it isn’t.
I trust that there is nothing untoward going on but the potential is there and perception is also important. think quite a few of the bookmaker/jockey/trainer relationships
are, at best, inappropriate.I trust that there is nothing untoward going on but the potential is there and perception is also important. think quite a few of the bookmaker/jockey/trainer relationships
are, at best, inappropriate.I don’t think anything untoward is going on as far as the jockeys see it BUT I find it rather sad that bookmakers exploit the punting public’s trust in respected jockeys knowing full well that the majority of hard-earned put on the tips will end up in the satchel. Rich people forget the hardships of the poor so it’s all treated like a bit of a lark (i dare say the same can be said of the militant artfulness in racing in general). I cannot ever remember being in a betting shop and hearing a jockey tip a decent winner. It is another aspect of a game that I find more and more distasteful to be honest.
Jockey gives his opinion shock.
Jockey gets it wrong shock.You’d find a way of looking at anything as "distasteful" Prof.
Value Is EverythingI don’t think anything untoward is going on as far as the jockeys see it BUT I find it rather sad that bookmakers exploit the punting public’s trust in respected jockeys knowing full well that the majority of hard-earned put on the tips will end up in the satchel.
Like you, I don’t think this is great to be honest Prof but as yesterday’s events have shown, you’re only one bad fall away from losing your USP in this game. The world of advertising will always be a conduit for the famous and/or talented. Didn’t Bobby Moore tell us to go down the pub more often? Didn’t Pele (no less) give us need-to-know information about erectile disfunction (probably caused by going down the pub too often)?
Such is life.
And whilst I would agree with you that Mr McCoy is one of the many trusted and respected riders we have in the game, surely nobody really rushes out to dispose of their readies based on a few stilted comments in an infomercial?
Mike
AP gives his opinion in a William Hill advert.
Nicholls gives his on betfair.
Hughes gives his on Victor Chandler.Others may give an opinion on ATR or RUK and not get paid for it.
Value Is EverythingI don’t think anything untoward is going on as far as the jockeys see it BUT I find it rather sad that bookmakers exploit the punting public’s trust in respected jockeys knowing full well that the majority of hard-earned put on the tips will end up in the satchel.
Like you, I don’t think this is great to be honest Prof but as yesterday’s events have shown, you’re only one bad fall away from losing your USP in this game. The world of advertising will always be a conduit for the famous and/or talented. Didn’t Bobby Moore tell us to go down the pub more often? Didn’t Pele (no less) give us need-to-know information about erectile disfunction (probably caused by going down the pub too often)?
Such is life.
And whilst I would agree with you that Mr McCoy is one of the many trusted and respected riders we have in the game, surely nobody really rushes out to dispose of their readies based on a few stilted comments in an infomercial?
Mike
Why not, some schmucks bet on virtual racing based on nothing.
When has any sportsman ever said anything enightening in any advert/interview/press conference for the past decade or so.
The Management/PR people have everything so tied up that it’s just a waste of everyone’s time with all the obvious cliches muttered about what’s just happened or what’s coming up.
Gave up taking any notice a long time ago.
Gave up taking any notice a long time ago.
Wise choice. If you bet you will be hugely better off for it.
And to see the absolute master of stultifying sporting nonspeak in action, can I point you in the general direction of a Lewis Hamilton post-Grand Prix press conference…?
Mike
Jockey gives his opinion shock.
Jockey gets it wrong shock.You’d find a way of looking at anything as "distasteful" Prof.
Weak retort, Ginger.
I would say most people on here – myself included, you may be surprised to know – has respect for your indefatigable desire to come out on top in the betting jungle. Like Sisyphus*, whose fate is the perfect metaphor for the life of the average Turf punter, you are engaged in an awesomely difficult task and you extract the maximum enjoyment from it. It’s your ability to bounce back that I admire. But you have never shown much flare for the intricacies of debate; you are of the school of ‘I like what I say and say what I like’, and good luck. Just don’t expect me to be stunned by your rhetorical genius.
*In Greek mythology Sisyphus (pron.: /ˈsɪsɪfəs/;[1] Greek: Σίσυφος, Sísyphos) was a king of Ephyra (now known as Corinth) punished for chronic deceitfulness by being compelled to roll an immense boulder up a hill, only to watch it roll back down, and to repeat this action forever.I don’t think anything untoward is going on as far as the jockeys see it BUT I find it rather sad that bookmakers exploit the punting public’s trust in respected jockeys knowing full well that the majority of hard-earned put on the tips will end up in the satchel.
Like you, I don’t think this is great to be honest Prof but as yesterday’s events have shown, you’re only one bad fall away from losing your USP in this game. The world of advertising will always be a conduit for the famous and/or talented. Didn’t Bobby Moore tell us to go down the pub more often? Didn’t Pele (no less) give us need-to-know information about erectile disfunction (probably caused by going down the pub too often)?
Such is life.
And whilst I would agree with you that Mr McCoy is one of the many trusted and respected riders we have in the game, surely nobody really rushes out to dispose of their readies based on a few stilted comments in an infomercial?
Mike
This thread exposes a very weak link in the group-think on here about mug money. On here: when it comes to racing anyone who loses their money and has the temerity to offer the slightest verbal yawn is very swiftly rapped across the knuckles as a pocket talker. ‘Nobody forced you to have a bet’ etc. But when it’s FOBTs mugs suddenly become victims. This needs to be worked on by the Turf Traditionalist wing.
Fact is that as the gambling marines bark on here occasionally: punting decisions are made in split seconds. Betting shop punters are bombarded with persuasions to make wagers and it is no wonder if joe bloggs’s decision to have a punt is strengthened if McCoy or someone else recommends a bet.All a bookmaker wants anyone to do is lose.
They know that gambling is addictive and the addicted go on playing long after fun, novelty and gain vanish from the activity, so they don’t even have to worry about about people seeing it for it is. When great men such as McCoy get involved it somehow saddens me. The best and most sensible advice anyone in the game can give is this ‘9.9 times out of 10 put your money back in your pocket and walk out of the shop’.
And you know that is true.Jockey gives his opinion shock.
Jockey gets it wrong shock.You’d find a way of looking at anything as "distasteful" Prof.
Weak retort, Ginger.
I would say most people on here – myself included, you may be surprised to know – has respect for your indefatigable desire to come out on top in the betting jungle. Like Sisyphus*, whose fate is the perfect metaphor for the life of the average Turf punter, you are engaged in an awesomely difficult task and you extract the maximum enjoyment from it. It’s your ability to bounce back that I admire.
But you have never shown much flare for the intricacies of debate
You are correct Prof, I don’t "show much flare" for debate. I do enjoy it though and more importantly love the subject of horse racing.
You on the other hand Prof, show only a flare for moaning about anything and everything "Racing". Why not find something you can enjoy?
Value Is EverythingJockey gives his opinion shock.
Jockey gets it wrong shock.You’d find a way of looking at anything as "distasteful" Prof.
Weak retort, Ginger.
I would say most people on here – myself included, you may be surprised to know – has respect for your indefatigable desire to come out on top in the betting jungle. Like Sisyphus*, whose fate is the perfect metaphor for the life of the average Turf punter, you are engaged in an awesomely difficult task and you extract the maximum enjoyment from it. It’s your ability to bounce back that I admire.
But you have never shown much flare for the intricacies of debate
You are correct Prof, I don’t "show much flare" for debate. I do enjoy it though and more importantly love the subject of horse racing.
You on the other hand Prof, show only a flare for moaning about anything and everything "Racing". Why not find something you can enjoy?
I rest my case.
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