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  • #1678233
    Avatar photoKris
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    I shouldn’t really have a bet here, as I just want to see Paisley Park win, but I’ve bet Marie’s Rock at 7-1.

    #1678242
    Avatar photoVenture to Cognac
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    I’ve bet Dashel Drasher for Stayers, so don’t need to see him win here, as long as he runs well.

    Botox Has isn’t the type of profile I’d look at, but the booking of Caoilin Quinn is enough to keep me interested.

    The two who appeal most though for betting are Noble Yeats, snd Flight Deck. Noble Yeats was 16’s earlier, but I missed it. He’s the type who I actually think might run better if he runs in The Stayers, while this just might be the best time to catch Flight Deck.

    He’s from an unfashionable yard, but I’ve really liked him this year, and he’s got a half decent race in him.

    If Dashel Drasher drifts, and I hope he does, then I’ll bet him, but for now, it’s Flight Deck for me, just ahead of Noble Yeats.

    Hoping that I can beat the current 16’s, later in week

    Flight Deck

    #1678267
    GM23
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    I’m hoping Noble Yeats travels over and think he’s got a decent shout if Mullins has him fit enough.
    A lot of these staying hurdlers are very long in the tooth now and hes getting 6lb from the main contenders at 11st 2lb.
    He beat Dashel Drasher over fences last season giving him 4lb so he’s 10lb better off here.

    #1678269
    Mike007
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    It’s not always easy translating fences form over hurdles off a lower mark as Eldorado Allen showed us a couple of weeks back.

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    Avatar photoNathan Hughes
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    Strong Leader 14’s
    ran like a pig last time, can’t string two good efforts together since Jan 2023. Good run, poor, good, poor, good and poor. Pretty consistent eh.. :wacko:
    Was only a point difference in the betting to Maries Rock prior to the Rekeel
    Twice the price for this. Led the last two races but think he’ll be held up at this distance

    Gaelic Warrior Gold Cup Winner 2026

    #1678289
    Avatar photoRefuse To Bend
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    Botox Has dropped back into a Grade 2.

    The more I know the less I understand.

    #1678389
    Eezer
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    I’m going to bet old Paisley Park here, but I’m confident that come the weekend I can get better than 7-2

    #1678460
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    That 16’s a distant memory now for Noble Yeats. Can’t bring myself to bet him. I’ll cover Dashel Drasher in some shape or form.

    Pleased I waited with Flight Deck. Taking the three places, I think he’ll surprise

    Flight Deck 25’s EW 3Pls

    #1678495
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    There’s quite a bit of money coming for him VTC. I got the 16s on him with WH and £5 at 32s with their epic boost.

    Not getting too excited though as I’m not a great fan of Mullins.

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    Its interesting Noble Yeats has two entries at Cheltenham and neither are the Gold Cup; the Stayers and the Cross Country. I think a decent win here and they’ll have to go stayers otherwise you’d imagine it’ll be Cross Country with the rest of the mob being aimed at Aintree. He’s a hard one to weigh up because on what he did over fences last season finishing 4th in a Gold Cup and Grand National off near enough top weight you’d say he’s a horse with loads more ability than these and he’s probably operating near his peak when most of them are on the way down. Trouble is we have no idea if he’s actually any good over hurdles because it was never seriously on his agenda and the comeback was over a trip too short. I wouldn’t be paying to find out now but fair play to those on at bigger, knowing the yard we’ll probably know his fate by the off as he’ll either be fav or double figures.

    Nathan I might be wrong but I think Strong Leader wants decent ground (good-soft at worst) and it was pretty bad in the Relkeel so I’m giving him a pass there. The alternative is he doesn’t like Cheltenham which would obviously be a negative if so. I wasn’t impressed with his jumping in the Coral Hurdle but more with his attitude and the pieces go on and hopefully they help sharpen the jumping up. I think he’ll stay and might still be on the up back on a sounder surface. He’ll do for me in a trappy affair, any double figures is fine.

    #1678683
    Mike007
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    Paisley Park insurebet 2 places

    #1678688
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    Have to add Dashel Drasher, as he drifts (as usual). Best price 11-2 just now, but confident I can get better if I hold off

    Dashel Drasher
    Flight Deck 25’s EW 3Pls

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    NY has been getting markedly outpaced at this trip (and longer) over fences all of last year, so a drop to 3m hurdling and in a race that will likely be more tactically run (even with Dashel making the running) I think could highlight that trait even more………his chance will likely depending on how close he can stay in touch coming down the hill to alloy his superior stamina to then kick in coming back up it.

    Dashel will appreciate a return back to Cheltenham but even allowing for that and him being worse off at the weights here like he was at Ascot (from Newbury), I was a little disappointed that he got left behind at Ascot. Champ will have to buck his worrying trend of the last few season of running his best race first time out and then his form tailing off thereafter……I don’t trust him to do that especially at the age of 12.

    Even though he is also 12, Paisley really has to take advantage here coming off his great last run (he certainly won’t get a better opportunity to win another big race than today) but he also has the same getting outpaced at a vital stage problem (especially coming down the hill at Cheltenham) and while that did clearly happen at Newbury, it didn’t at Ascot last time.

    #1678712
    Avatar photoWilts
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    My old fav Paisley Park, for me :good:

    #1678713
    Avatar photoKris
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    I have to have a bet on Paisley Park now, with Marie’s Rock not running

    #1678726
    GM23
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    LD73, 3m over hurdles often requires more stamina than chasing.
    That’s why a lot of the greats tended to be horses who ran behind the bit.
    Barracuda
    Inglis Drever
    Big Bucks
    Paisley Park

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    greenasgrass
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    Dashel Drasher for me, ‘hon the geriatrics!

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