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Folks,
I dont know if any user here avails of the facility whereby a bookmaker offers odds on two horses in a race (usually 5/6 each of two) and the winner is the one that finishes ahead of the other (once one horse finishes the race)
I just noticed Paddy Powers have changed the rules to now state that should both horses not finish the course, the winner will be the one who completed the furthest distance. Most of the other bookmakers would always give money back if both didnt finish and PP themselves did up until I spotted this on the website today.Any other bookies changed tack in line with PP?
Cheers
Strangely enough Berminn, I always thought the rule PP now settle by has always been the rule.
I hardly ever have a bet in this type of market, but I do remember that the last time I did such a bet, the rule was that if both horses didn’t finish, the horse that got the furthest would be deemed the winner. Sorry it was that long ago that I can’t remember which bookie it was.
Mike
Just to add Berminn, that the last time I did do this bet was in the Grand National, so the rules might have been ‘special’ for that race – in fact, they probably were.
Mike
Thanks for reply mikey.
Funny enough I had a match bet in this years GN with Boyles. Backed something that fell early doors but other horse in match bet was Simon and he fell 6 (?) out. Match bet was refunded, no questions asked.
I use the match bets quite a lot and was hoping that this wasnt an across the board thing as Id rather get money back on a non finisher than losing my money to a horse that was pulled up 20 yards after my horse was pulled up but some 4 furlongs from the finish.I’ve got a bit of spare time tomorrow Berminn, so if you like, I’ll check the rules for each company once their match bets for the day are priced up. If there are any particular companies you would like me to find out for you, then let me know.
Mike
Thanks Mikky, thats very good of you.
Id usually bet them in Ladbrokes (nothing on website re rules) Boylesports, Paddy power and Bruce Betting in Ireland.
Cheers
If betting on this basis, it might be worth checking which source the bookmaker uses for settling bets where the one which gets the farthest wins. Could be a bit contentious with horses which pulled up, and does a fall at a fence count as getting farther than a refuser at the same obstacle?
Rob
Exactly robnorth, it adds confusion to a market and particularly as the rule has sneaked in under the radar!
There was just such an example last week, when the Life & Post comments were entirely contradictory about two horses who had pulled up. The vid gave a hint at what happened but neither was seen actually pulling up. The bookmaker pdecided to pay out on both as winners, as a goodwill gesture.
Thanks Mikky, thats very good of you.
Id usually bet them in Ladbrokes (nothing on website re rules) Boylesports, Paddy power and Bruce Betting in Ireland.
Cheers
Hi Berminn.
Ladbrokes – At least one horse must cross the finish line for the bet to be settled. If both horses fail to complete the course the bet is void.
Boylesports – Same as above.
Paddy Power – If both horses fail to complete, bets are settled on the horse that gets the furthest according to the official result.
Bruce Betting – No answer when I phoned them, but have sent an email asking for clarification of their rule.
I hope this helps.
Mike
Bruce Betting? Never heard of them, are they an Aussie firm?
There’s loads of them in Ireland.
Thanks Mikky, thats very good of you.
Id usually bet them in Ladbrokes (nothing on website re rules) Boylesports, Paddy power and Bruce Betting in Ireland.
Cheers
Hi Berminn.
Ladbrokes – At least one horse must cross the finish line for the bet to be settled. If both horses fail to complete the course the bet is void.
Boylesports – Same as above.
Paddy Power – If both horses fail to complete, bets are settled on the horse that gets the furthest according to the official result.
Bruce Betting – No answer when I phoned them, but have sent an email asking for clarification of their rule.
I hope this helps.
Mike
Different class Mikky, many thanks for taking the trouble to do that. I might email Paddy Power and see about them changing back as its off putting to punters
Just to emphasise the problems PP are creating, could anybody tell me who would have won the match bet between Acambo and Russian Around at Taunton today? It could be argued by a backer of Acambo that he fell a few inches farther than Russian Around but that could have just been the angle from t.v and Russian Around actually fell past Acambo.
Just to emphasise the problems PP are creating, could anybody tell me who would have won the match bet between Acambo and Russian Around at Taunton today? It could be argued by a backer of Acambo that he fell a few inches farther than Russian Around but that could have just been the angle from t.v and Russian Around actually fell past Acambo.
Good point. I think in the event of what happened today, then that would be void and your stake refunded, but don’t quote me on that. I’ll give them a ring tomorrow if you like and find out.
By the way, I got a strange email response from Bruce Betting who said something on the lines of they don’t do match betting on horse races, but their rule is the same as Ladbrokes. Why I was told the rule for a bet they don’t do was strange, but I just got the feeling the person who respnded wasn’t sure to be honest.
Mike
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