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Hmmm the American Civil War. May get started on that sometime.
Currently reading about the Armenian Holocaust by the Turks in the early part of last century.
Very Interesting but also tragic
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Re: GBIf you think of it in terms of the human body.
Scotland is the head and therefore houses the brain.
England is the greater mass: encorporating the belly, the guts, the backbone – and the bowels !
Wales is the ( chip on the ) shoulder.
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Re: GBIf you think of it in terms of the human body.
Scotland is the head and therefore houses the brain.
England is the greater mass: encorporating the belly, the guts, the backbone – and the bowels !
Wales is the ( chip on the ) shoulder.
I suppose that explains why the country has gone mad
Hmmm the American Civil War. May get started on that sometime.
Currently reading about the Armenian Holocaust by the Turks in the early part of last century.
Very Interesting but also tragic
…I’m sure it is. Do you take sides when reading such histories or are you impartial? do you feel some empathy with the Armenians or do you feel they were provoked by the Turks?
perhaps you haven’t got that far into it yet, but just curious, obviously I’m not familiar with it.…thanks to David for that information.
…As Scotland is apparently the brains of the outfit, perhaps us Englishers ought to point out that encorporating is spelt with an ‘i’.
…As Scotland is apparently the brains of the outfit, perhaps us Englishers ought to point out that encorporating is spelt with an ‘i’.
Eee by gum, I know – and I wondered how long it would be until the first Pedantic Englander would appear to point that little error out.
I normally spell the word correctly. Must be the even colder weather we have been *incountering ( 
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".I’m sure it is. Do you take sides when reading such histories or are you impartial? do you feel some empathy with the Armenians or do you feel they were provoked by the Turks?"
I try to impartial as there is always 2 sides to a conflict as such. For instance Russia vs Georgia last year, i would have a lot of sympathy for the Russians in this particular case. Its Clear Georgia is hostile to the Russians and indeed provoked the war that happened last year. Unlike the media over here it was portrayed as some sort of Russian Death Squad situation which clearly is nonsense. Georgia has been armed to the "tits" with US Gov money and tried to act as some sort of Big Guy by challenging the Russians. Its clear that the Russians have some of the fiercest generals we are ever likely to see because they beat Big Guy down until he was waving the white flag( in a matter of days). Obviously the Russians shouldnt have beat so heavy handed but considering Israel gets a pass on similiar actions i felt the Russians were scapegoated to a certain extent in the mainstream media which is not fair as there are reports of Georgian ethenic cleansing of South Ossetia and brutal killing of 12 German peace keepers.
On the Turks well there just a god awful piece of work. There denying of a holocaust is pretty bad in any language but then again there are 2 sides to the story. Certainly the Nazi’s must have taken inspiration from such actions as it was Brutal killing on a huge scale
..nothing impartial there Wallace but understandably so I think. The Ottoman Empire must be a fascinating subject for the amateur student to tuck into. The Armenian Genocide isn’t one we hear too much about but that can be said of some other’s I can think of.
I cannot take to the Russian’s. One can admire them and who could not considering their efforts during WW2 and earlier, which may have saved our bacon, but you haven’t got to like them. Saying that, I don’t think I’ve ever met one but, viewing from afar, they seem too harsh a people for me. Dour.
…and I can do without Putin showing off his chest.However, the Chukchi people and other indigenous tribes to the east would most likely be of more interest to me.
You seem like an interesting young man so I hope you will write some more in due course, about your historical studies and opinions. cheerio for now.
Ugly Mare i dont even study History. Final year in Finance and Accounting. History is purely just a thing i am interested in. I find it interesting lol but if i fail my accounting exams i may have to go down that route.
oh that’s ok, we can all be students of history, amateur or professional.
I wish you well in your career but I fear you may be less lucky in love. Ladies dislike having their shopping budget’s monitored Wallace. Generosity will get you everywhere you need to go.
Wallace, the press is probably the biggest enemy of this country. Their role in the rise of Hitler was breath-taking.
An American astutely pointed out on the Democratic Underground board that Nazism wasn’t beaten, it just changed venues, i.e. to the US. Prescott Bush, Avery Dulles and other ‘wheels’ financed them heavily. Dulles was a promoter of the Bay of Pigs fiasco and a traitorous enemy of JFK. Kennedy ws going to close them down.
From being an intelligence agency they had branched out to work operationally in tandem with the ever-growing monster that is the US military-industrial complex, about which Eisenhower had expressed such dire, prophetic fears on the same grounds.
Truman once said of the CIA, ‘If I’d known they were a bunch of Nazis (which they were initially), I’d have closed them down.’
In fact, recently, they have been carrying out tortures on the Iraqis and Afghans that even the German Nazis and the Japanese had not conceived of.
Bt I digress. They steam-rollered in Thatcher at the behest of the very worst of the Tories, quite marginalising the decent, one-nation Tories. And to this day, they have the gall to lionize the woman as a great Britihs leader. Never mind that it was she and Reagan who played such a major role in the deregulation of the banks, etc and promoted the finanical sector at the expense of industry. Now, we’re going to be paying the price. It’s barely started yet.
Juts look at the types who become media magnates, and consider their influence on the politics of the country. Murdoch isn’t even a British national.
More later.
Grimes – your rant about Thatcher tkaes the biscuit. You seem as gullible to leftist propaganda as you believe those on the right (& that includes me) are to right wing propaganda.
You could pool the entire intellect and "ability" of every Labour Prime Minister this country has ever had and it would still only be a fraction of Mrs Thatcher’s.
Murdoch is a nasty piece of work………
Fox News in the States is scarcely believable at times.
Bill O Reilly is okay……right wing commentator
but they have got Hannity and other complete racial "****" stirrers neo con manicas running the channel.
Sky News is his British Arm and that does not have a patch on Fox
…how does Mrs Thatcher score on the ‘compassion’ scale, Paul? Or isn’t that necessary in politics?
…how does Mrs Thatcher score on the ‘compassion’ scale, Paul? Or isn’t that necessary in politics?
Now that depends on what your definition of compassion is, which I note you have put in quotes yourself, implying it is a debatable definition.
As an individual I would rate her as being a compassionate person.
Good politicians however, and that applies to politicians of all political persuasions, have to be dispassionate at time otherwise they would not be able to do the job properly.
The day to day analogy I would use is where parents have to sometimes show "tough love" – possibly not "compassionate" – but necessary for the better good.
I read a long time ago that Mrs T had accepted a lot of money to promote sales of cigarettes to Third World Countries; unfortunately I lost the article, so questioned my memory. I was disgusted at the time and was surprised how little publicity it was given. Maybe she had the sense to decide against it.[was pleased to read that half the money she received was to go to the Margaret Thatcher Foundation..oh, good, I thought, she’s at least going to help starving children or something..alas, it was just to fund some sort of website about…Margaret Thatcher…].
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