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    Avatar photoBen_Bernanke
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    “As is talking horse jet powered, be interesting to see what nicky runs”

    Luccia now also entered in a mares novice hurdle and a novice hurdle this Saturday with Jet Powered only entered into the Friday race, so looks like Jet Powered races on the Friday and Luccia in one of the Saturday races.

    That is assuming the ground is perfect of course.

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    #1624594
    Avatar photoBen_Bernanke
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    Come on Luccia

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    Smoooooth

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    That went well. She looked like the winner every step of the way.

    #1624646
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    Indeed no complaints here, good time as well just 4 seconds slower than standard, even looked green when she hit the front

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    Same as most, LUCCIA at 10/1 ew. A very nice mare who’s beating of Mullins Eabha Grace at Sandown last season puts her right up there with the Irish mares (Slightly in front) on collateral form. Now we can see she is slick over her hurdles and still a tad green which screams improvement to come. :good:

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    Won’t be surprised if Luccia goes off very short for this

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    Does anyone know if Luccia is likely to run again before the festival? Doesn’t look like she has an entries and just had a quick google search and couldn’t see any updates after she was withdrawn from the Tolworth at Sandown.

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    Realise RPRs are not for everyone, and this year they seem to be throwing more controversial numbers than normal, but Night + Day was given 140. I’m not too sure how they’ve arrived at that figure given those in behind, but you couldn’t help but be taken by her size and performance.
    Having thrown her in the proper deep in last year, they obviously think she’s talented. This race really is wide open this year.

    Luccia has looked very useful but the horse she beat was beaten last time out + in her 2nd bumper she thrashed a WPM’s mare getting 7lbs. She won as she liked but Eabha Grace won 1 bumper start from 5. To be fair she’s looked respectable over hurdles without again looking like a Mullin’s wondermare.

    I’m tempted to add Night + Day for all, a maiden hurdle winner at like 8 or 10/1 seems short, I do remember the likes of Allegorie De Vassy being the same price last year before beating Brandy Love.

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    “Does anyone know if Luccia is likely to run again before the festival? Doesn’t look like she has an entries and just had a quick google search and couldn’t see any updates after she was withdrawn from the Tolworth at Sandown.”

    I heard the Sidney banks was a possibility

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    Thanks FF, she certainly looked green when winning on hurdles debut so would rather she went to Cheltenham with a bit more experience

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    “Realise RPRs are not for everyone”

    I’d expect a man of your manifest knowledge to be compiling his own, Jack, and I’m not even joking.

    No one ever got an edge by taking any notice of ratings that are in the public domain where, not to put too fine a point on it, any f****r can see them.

    RPRs are compiled by overexcited anorak overgrown schoolboys who are just gagging to find the next Frankel/Arkle/whatever and give them monster ratings.

    In later life they become BHA Handicappers and calm down.

    A bit.

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    Ian, this is something i’ve always been quite interested in doing. However, having a 2yo and another on the way make it a little tricky.

    I do not follow RPRs blindly, nor do i follow Timeform or Pro-form for that matter. I do like to have them along with everything else to form a selection.

    As for the RPR given to the horse i mention, i did say i’m not exactly sure how they arrive at that rating. She’s won it as she liked and looks like a well put together mare. However, the RPR given is 4pds higher than Dinoblue’s last year and i’d comfortably say Dinoblue’s race was a better version of the race. DB didn’t win as far but i’d be shocked if this year’s horses in behind are much use at all.

    In saying that though, if you even took 10pds off N+D’s RPR (I doubt they’re that bad) you are still up there with what Ashroe Diamond and Luccia have achieved. The more i look at Luccia i’d want to be against her currently. Yes she’s won nicely, but her form doesn’t translate to her price for me.

    Elliot’s also got some strong contenders but it’s hard to workout what will run here.

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    I’d definitely prefer night and day to ashroe diamond myself

    Don’t like ashroe diamonds profile at all

    The Aintree bumper she won was dirt

    And she travelled like the winner in the Royal bond before finding nothing. The race would need to completely fall apart for her to win imo. Be very worried about her getting up the hill.

    Looking forward to seeing luccia again, if the mighty hill goes chasing next season I’d have her as a wild outsider for the 2024 champion hurdle.

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    Luccia is going to head to the Listed Virgin Bet Novices Hurdle at Exeter on February 12.

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    That should put her spot on. :o)

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