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  • #1301477
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    Ribchester now an unbackable price. The value looks to be Galileo Gold at 4/1 given he seemed to be very closely matched with Ribchester last year. Certainly if he gets any bigger I’ll be looking to have a sizeable bet on him.

    #1301553
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    Harry Herbert seemed to believe GG is back to his form of early last season, if he is he’s a great bet at 9/2 this morning.

    #1301592
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    I think that SOMEHOW, with the going being slow, is decent value
    at 7/1 this morning. She was mostly tried in top races over 12f last year, which
    clearly stretches her stamina. Her only success at that distance was in the
    Cheshire Oaks, probably because Chester is not a big galloping track round it’s
    tight bends. Dropped to 9f at the tail end of last season saw her to much better
    effect, winning very easily. If I’m giving her the benefit of the doubt in her
    comeback at Naas over 8f, she might just have needed it a little, as quite a lot
    of O’Brien’s seem to, but she traveled like the race was hers for the taking, but
    got pegged back at the finish for a decent 2nd. She’s raced twice since and won both
    well, although the Dahlia did look a bit weak.

    This is probably the minimum she needs, but the conditions and the likely strong pace,
    which will be set by Toscanini, should play to her strengths. Ribchester is top notch
    but 3 wins out of 10, even though he has improved, doesn’t scream banker to me. Galileo
    Gold if back to his 200 Guineas form would be a major threat, but he was disappointing
    at the end of the season and there are question marks about him. At least we know that
    Somehow is in very good form, and the 3lb allowance won’t do her any harm. I think she’s
    the value in the race at 7/1.

    #1301603
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    Harry Herbert seemed to believe GG is back to his form of early last season, if he is he’s a great bet at 9/2 this morning.

    For me Harry Herbert isn’t just a “Glass Half Full” person. He’s a “Glass Full And Overflowing” person.

    I’ve been burned a few times after reading his input and then seeing that the reality was way different. It’s his job to be positive about the owners horses and I just don’t give any heed to what he says anymore.

    I would be more worried as to why it was 11/4 Ribchester and 3/1 Galileo Gold and that it is now 6/4 Ribchester and 9/2 Galileo Gold. Harry Herbert is only giving a statement. Punters are placing actual money on their opinion. Drifting in the betting is almost always a bad sign for me.

    Talking of that, Somehow was a best price of 5/1 during the week but is now 7/1. Lightning Spear seems better backed than her. The softer ground should help Somehow on the stamina front.

    I am not sure I would back Ribchester at 6/4 now. Faced with the race today at current odds I probably wouldn’t play. You could make each-way cases for a few but you would be making next to nothing on a place only.

    Good luck. Obviously I am hoping for Ribchester, having done him ante-post.

    Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.

    #1301627
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    11/4 Ribchester

    That’ll do me in what will be a poor race by the time they lineup.

    He tore them apart

    #1301633
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    Congrats Middle of March and other backers! I’ve never really liked this horse but there is no denying what he did there was special, as his trainer put it. He’d put it right up to a fully fit Solow based on that performance, and hopefully we get to see just that in the Queen Anne.

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    Not sure why Solow is still in the Queen Anne betting, Freddy Head said the horse had suffered a setback and won’t run until September at the earliest.

    You can get 5/2 Ribchester with SkyBet for the Queen Anne, he is as low as 5/4 with BoyleSports.

    I think 5/2 is a great price. I had already backed him at 7/2, because I felt he would win today.

    Minding is unlikely to run and who else is there to be concerned about really?

    Today’s race started with the pacemaker falling out of the stalls. His jockey showed zero concern and made no effort to lead. I think it was a deliberate ploy and Ribchester was allowed to set his own pace. I felt that would rule Somehow right out of it and she never showed. The money on Somehow was classic lemming money. A horse unproven at the trip and with weaker form, being backed by people who chose not to take her at 7/1 this morning but were then running like headless chickens to snare half those odds.

    Lightning Spear ran a sound race but Ribchester cleared away from him on the rail. Galileo Gold was very disappointing. He held a decent position early but Frankie was then weaving like the NFL wide receiver Swervin’ Mervin Hernandez and the colt weakened quite disappointingly, a tame effort that seemed to echo the market weakness, rather than Harry Herbert’s confidence that the Guineas winner was right back to his best.

    The race was rather spoiled for me by the sheer number of hangers-on in the commentary box, flitting from Francesca Cumani to Hayley Turner, back to the largely unintelligible Kieren Fallon and so forth, seemed to me to be a case of at least two too many voices for actual requirements.

    All we really needed was a big button reading Ribchester 11/4 BET a couple of days ago ;-)

    Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.

    #1301650
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    Not sure why Solow is still in the Queen Anne betting, Freddy Head said the horse had suffered a setback and won’t run until September at the earliest.

    You can get 5/2 Ribchester with SkyBet for the Queen Anne, he is as low as 5/4 with BoyleSports.

    I think 5/2 is a great price. I had already backed him at 7/2, because I felt he would win today.

    Minding is unlikely to run and who else is there to be concerned about really?

    Today’s race started with the pacemaker falling out of the stalls. His jockey showed zero concern and made no effort to lead. I think it was a deliberate ploy and Ribchester was allowed to set his own pace. I felt that would rule Somehow right out of it and she never showed. The money on Somehow was classic lemming money. A horse unproven at the trip and with weaker form, being backed by people who chose not to take her at 7/1 this morning but were then running like headless chickens to snare half those odds.

    Lightning Spear ran a sound race but Ribchester cleared away from him on the rail. Galileo Gold was very disappointing. He held a decent position early but Frankie was then weaving like the NFL wide receiver Swervin’ Mervin Hernandez and the colt weakened quite disappointingly, a tame effort that seemed to echo the market weakness, rather than Harry Herbert’s confidence that the Guineas winner was right back to his best.

    The race was rather spoiled for me by the sheer number of hangers-on in the commentary box, flitting from Francesca Cumani to Hayley Turner, back to the largely unintelligible Kieren Fallon and so forth, seemed to me to be a case of at least two too many voices for actual requirements.

    All we really needed was a big button reading Ribchester 11/4 BET a couple of days ago ;-)

    Steve – youre on fire. You dont happen to know tonight’s Lotto results do you???:mail:

    I go on holiday on Monday so decided I wouldnt have a bet this week, much to my own frustrations as I would have had a few winners!

    Regardless, I missed the decent price on Ribchester for the Lockinge but because there seemed to be a majority consensus that Ribchester would win today, I adventured and took the 7/2 yesterday on him for the Queen Anne.

    Knowing my luck he’ll go and lose….or get injured!

    Fair play to everyone who backed him.

    #1301652
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    Not sure why Solow is still in the Queen Anne betting, Freddy Head said the horse had suffered a setback and won’t run until September at the earliest.

    Is that confirmed Steve? Very disappointing if so, makes me wonder will they even bother racing him come September.

    Congrats on Ribchester as well, for once Godolphin seemed to have their tactics sorted out and he was never going to lose when given such an easy lead. He will probably go off a lot shorter than 5/2 for the Queen Anne, but there is just something about the horse that I can’t bring myself to back with confidence. Even if he goes and hoses up I wont be too disappointed on missing out.

    #1301659
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    Not sure why Solow is still in the Queen Anne betting, Freddy Head said the horse had suffered a setback and won’t run until September at the earliest.

    Is that confirmed Steve? Very disappointing if so, makes me wonder will they even bother racing him come September.

    Congrats on Ribchester as well, for once Godolphin seemed to have their tactics sorted out and he was never going to lose when given such an easy lead. He will probably go off a lot shorter than 5/2 for the Queen Anne, but there is just something about the horse that I can’t bring myself to back with confidence. Even if he goes and hoses up I wont be too disappointed on missing out.

    Voleur – heres the article about Solow

    https://www.sportinglife.com/racing/news/future-plans-for-solow-unclear/66097

    #1301680
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    Nice one, Steve.

    For Queen Anne fans, be careful: Greg Wood reports that there is a small chance Ribchester could step up in trip for The Prince Of Wales on day 2.

    #1301681
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    Nice one, Steve.

    For Queen Anne fans, be careful: Greg Wood reports that there is a small chance Ribchester could step up in trip for The Prince Of Wales on day 2.

    After being the first on this thread to back him, I’m Bl00dy annoyed with myself for not thinking ahead and backing him for the Queen Anne.

    Will have to take the 5/2 on offer still. Cracking horse who, as I said at the start of this thread, I rate as much better than his opposition.

    With almanzor, Minding and Solow all not running against him at Ascot, he’s just surely not going to lose? I’d have him 11/8 personally.

    #1301727
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    MoM – well done and apologies, I should have read through the thread.

    #1301731
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    I read a wee while ago that Solow was out for several months. I think I mentioned it on the Queen Anne thread. I expressed then that I was surprised Ladbrokes and Coral were still quoting Freddy Head’s horse. Coral took Solow out for a while but then put him back in.

    Anyway, both firms have now removed him from the betting. If they have any decency they will refund any bets they took after all the other firms had removed Solow from the market, because they were taking bets on a horse who clearly wasn’t going to be running and that’s not on as far as I am concerned.

    Does anyone at these firms pay any attention to the Racing News? It should be mandatory to keep tabs on events in what is supposed to be a Sporting Business.

    Ribchester is generally 7/4 now and it seemed clear to me last night that 5/2 had to be taken before the compilers woke up and realised they could get thumped at those odds.

    Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.

    #1301744
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    Not sure why Solow is still in the Queen Anne betting, Freddy Head said the horse had suffered a setback and won’t run until September at the earliest.

    Is that confirmed Steve? Very disappointing if so, makes me wonder will they even bother racing him come September.

    Congrats on Ribchester as well, for once Godolphin seemed to have their tactics sorted out and he was never going to lose when given such an easy lead. He will probably go off a lot shorter than 5/2 for the Queen Anne, but there is just something about the horse that I can’t bring myself to back with confidence. Even if he goes and hoses up I wont be too disappointed on missing out.

    Voleur – heres the article about Solow

    https://www.sportinglife.com/racing/news/future-plans-for-solow-unclear/66097

    Thanks Clints, very disappointing.

    #1301771
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    MoM – well done and apologies, I should have read through the thread.

    Ha – I wasn’t looking for praise.

    I’m just pointing out that these horses looked inferior (to me anyway) to Ribchester but will be running against him again.

    It’ll be the same horses.

    So we are affectiveky betting on him making the track and running to form.

    7/4 his new price is a bit closer at least but the 5/2 was crazy.

    #1301787
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    MoM – well done and apologies, I should have read through the thread.

    Ha – I wasn’t looking for praise.

    I’m just pointing out that these horses looked inferior (to me anyway) to Ribchester but will be running against him again.

    It’ll be the same horses.

    So we are affectiveky betting on him making the track and running to form.

    7/4 his new price is a bit closer at least but the 5/2 was crazy.

    Hugo Palmer is running health checks on his team. He has also said they may drop Galileo Gold into a “Penalty Kick” race to help rebuild the colt’s confidence.

    Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.

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