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    AROD looks big at 20/1 for this. Market leaders have question marks but this guy will surely come on for his run behind GM Hopkins at Ascot last month and has some solid form last year which will put him right in the firing line in this.

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    I’m with Limato all the way if he runs tomorrow and if not I think Toormore will win, he has matured as a 4yo and is better than ever..good luck with Arod David nice each way bet. :good: Jac

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    mickeyjp
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    The Lockinge used to be a top class race but is more a glorified group 2 now. Still it looks a competitive race and arod looks the value to me.

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    Thought it was an odd jockey choice for Limato, think I would have been tempted to stick with Ryan Moore.

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    I’m most worried about LIMATO who looks the class in the race (good luck with him Jac)
    but there are a couple of question marks with the ground and and distance, if he manages
    both he should win.

    I’m taking a chance that ENDLESS DRAMA has strengthened up from 3 to 4. He is huge and
    there could be a question mark about them being able to get him fully wound up first
    time out. I think he’s going to be a better 4 year old than a 3 year old, and he was
    a decent enough horse at 3, running a terrific race in the Irish 2000 Guineas only
    finding Gleneagles too good. I’ve taken the 11/1 with Betvictor, I think that’s a huge
    price.

    Good luck all :good:

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    I would be all over Arod if the ground was just a touch quicker Corm. I am sure he has a Group 1 in him and you are right 20-1 is a huge price for a horse who gave Solow a fright last year. He should be spot on for his comeback run and if the ground really has dried out enough for him he has to have every chance. Good luck anyway.

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    goreisking
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    Arod can’t run on a straight course, he needs a bend and the ground won’t suit him at all. Limato is by the far the best horse in this race but the jockey isn’t a bright spark. Limato should take all the beating here but if it was to lose I would suspect a bad ride.

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    Toormore for me, though I’d love to see Kodi Bear win it

    #1245944
    RacingLife
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    Yes I think Limato is probably the best horse in the field but he was kept away from anything but good to firm last season and I would be a little worried that Twilight Son from the same stable looked as if he needed the run in his race during the week.

    I am going with Belardo now that Doyle is off and Atzeni is up – he was 8/13 to beat Toormore at Sandown and was given a terrible ride by Doyle that gave the horse no chance.. If you put a line through that race then Belardo looks a big price today

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    I have done Dutch Connection now that the ground has dried out to Good.

    I can’t see why he is three times the price of Toormore.

    Dutch Connection travelled best last time they met and looked to have made a winning move. Toormore simply outstayed him in the end on the soft ground.

    12/1 just seems too big for Dutch Connection.

    Limato looks awesome when he wins but he’s been second too often for me and he concedes sharpness to rivals on his debut and has never won at the trip. He looks poor value to me and Candy’s Twilight Son ran like a boat at York during the week.

    Arod is representing a stable slow to come to form this year. This is much tougher and I don’t think it was a great race with GM Hopkins winning it. I think GM Hopkins is well out of his depth in what is probably only a group 2 quality renewal.

    Mahsoob won a race that hasn’t worked out and I doubt he is up to this standard anyway.

    Belardo looks a classic honey trap today after a deemed terrible ride last time. He’s just a quirky type for me who doesn’t win often enough and I think he is bad value today in a better race and with the ground dried out to good now, I can’t have him. I have laid him to a place at 7/4. No doubt one of these he’ll pop up and everyone will say, “I knew he had it in him” but they may well be making the statement from a cardboard box on skid row by then ;-)

    Dutch Connection at 12/1 for me and Toormore for the reverse forecast is my idea of the outcome.

    Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.

    #1245966
    goreisking
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    Agree with Steve Dutch Connection would of beat Toormore if the ground was decent.

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    Toormore for me. He’s no more than a distinctly average Group 1 miler in the grand scheme of things, but I think he always seems like he’s a bit better than he looks on paper.

    Hawk Wing was the same, though I’m not expecting a winning margin like his today.

    I saw Toormore’s sire Arakan win at Newmarket in 2004. He was a smashing looking horse.

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    RacingLife
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    Belardo looks a classic honey trap today after a deemed terrible ride last time. He’s just a quirky type for me who doesn’t win often enough and I think he is bad value today in a better race and with the ground dried out to good now, I can’t have him. I have laid him to a place at 7/4. No doubt one of these he’ll pop up and everyone will say, “I knew he had it in him” but they may well be making the statement from a cardboard box on skid row by then ;-)

    I think your right Steve 7/1 might not be great value but should he be twice the price of Toormore? I just think that Belardo has a big run in him and I’m hoping it’s today.. However the race is really really competitive I could have backed 5 or 6 which shows it’s a race for very small stakes.

    Good luck all,
    Conor

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    * Sorry Toormore is 5/1 now I thought he was about 7/2 or 4/1 this morning

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    Booooo Toormore! Career best from Belardo.

    #1245986
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    That was absolutely awesome like I said on here after Sandown Doyle gave it an atrocious ride last time

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    Hat’s off to Belardo, that looked his best ever run and he answered my doubts in great style.

    Having said that, it was a funny old race.

    Limato was a ridiculous price and everybody seemed to think that because Henry Candy said they thought he would stay, then it was cast iron sure. I have felt for a while that Limato is inconsistent and the stable had a stinker in Twilight Son earlier in the week.

    The whole Toormore/Dutch Connection/Belardo scenario was turned on it’s head and it is hardly as if we can seriously base that on the bad ride theory from last time. Belardo was far enough back again today to negate that theory.

    I felt that perhaps Toormore chased too strong a pace too soon and he looked to tire. Dutch Connection seemed to be in a good position before dropping back a bit. He did come with a run but it petered out quickly. I would say a 7f race looks where he belongs.

    I suspected Gosden had a weak hand here and so it proved.

    Probably more of a group 2 in the end but Belardo came with a good steady run to take the spoils. I felt the pacemaker helped him today and he looked much more like the horse who won the Dewhurst and not before time really.

    I was disappointed with Toormore, Richard Hannon seemed keen to point out he was in the best form he had ever had him today.

    Limato was another Lemmings job today and Henry Candy said before the race that they were still training him solely at 5f and 6f at home, making no adaptations for a mile campaign, having stated that the work horses can’t go fast enough to keep him interested at that work distance and the horse just gets bored and switches off. Not an ideal scenario for getting a winner at a mile but hey ho.

    Well done Joni and any others who kept faith in Belardo, I didn’t expect that show, particularly on the ground today.

    Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.

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