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    Frenchy15
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    The more I look at the race, the more solid Hey Gaman looks. Happy to have taken the 4s earlier as I’m not surprised he’s fav ahead of Zaaki. Might yet still have a saver on Sir Dancealot but struggling to see the others winning this as you could make negatives against all of them. You can’t really make any negatives about Hey Gaman (maybe his size pointed out earlier on here perhaps) apart from his breeding doesn’t look anything like a 7F horse usually, but he’s proven he is in his last 3 runs.

    Watching Flaming Spear closely in the market, but otherwise I will leave him alone, the only other one maybe is Space Traveller, I can see the negatives, but still he’s a Royal Ascot Jersey winner at 9/1, so maybe a saver there. Of the others, no horse in the history of the running as never tackled 7F before (16/19 were distance winners), so thats a big negative against Speak in Colours. Suedois form over 7F is 51833324423, the win being a minor 10K race, he’s likely to run his usual solid race without winning, Pretty Baby is taking a big jump up, likely to be too far and a big negative trend on Zaaki dropping back in trip. I can see Donjuan Triumphant running well if the heavens open, so I’m watching that and Breton Rock is 9 now.

    So Hey Gaman for me. Possible savers/part savers on Sir Dancealot and Space Traveller.

    I do really love these 7F races, it’s high time we had a 7F Group1 in the UK.

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    This does look tricky but as already said it may be best to concentrate on the seven furlong horses such as Hay Gaman and Space traveller. And at the prices had to back ST at 9/1 !!

    You can actually make a case for a lot of these on different bits of form but Space Traveller (even though he may have been fortunate at Ascot) looks like seven furlong specialist and if he gets the breaks at the right time then the price looks too big to ignore!!

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    GT, whats your take on the race last year if you think there’s not much pace this year as Donjuan Triumphant went off and set a good gallop last year and the first 2 home came from the back. Why would that not likely happen again this year?

    If I remember rightly, Frenchy; Spirit Of Valor and Karar and Donjuan Triumphant were the three prominent runners going in to the race but nothing really took Donjuan Triumphant on. tbh With a horse fully effective at 6f I am a little surprised Oisin didn’t try to slow it down, may be had to go fairly fast in the first couple of furlongs from the worst draw and couldn’t reign back. Had a couple of lengths lead around the turn. The reason Sir Dancealot could come from the back was Donjuan made it a reasonably even pace. However, if looking at DT’s overall form he sometimes leads but just as often tracks pace, usually races prominently but also can miss the break – so isn’t that consistent in run style. Yes, he is a possible front/prominent runner and a slower pace would help him last home. There is still rain around and that will also help. Do think this is a slightly better race and shouldn’t really be good enough, but is a big price. You’ve convinced me, Frenchy;probably under-estimated in the market.

    Am now on… Hey Gamen 7/2, Pretty Baby 14/1, Suedois 11/1, half a bet on Donjuan Triumphant 37/1 (wouldn’t put anyone off forcasts involving those four) with – just in case the pace is a good one – half a saver on Zaaki 7/2.

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    Anyone heard what way the winds are hitting the track yet?

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    Suedois 10/1

    Excellent record in this race, placed last two years and has been running well this season over wrong trips etc. Showed a cracking turn of foot LTO at Ascot and then flattened out over the stiff mile. Pieces on and back to a decent ground 7F is perfect, hopeful he’ll come down nice and late to win.

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    Frenchy15
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    My weather app says they’ve had 12mil of rain?! Can anyone confirm that or dodgy app?!

    Ive had a little win bet on him also now GT!

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    FinalFurlong91
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    Pouring down with rain

    Done my money on sir dancealot by the looks then

    #1449857
    Mike007
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    The ground is good from good to firm so not gone yet.

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    I’ve been switching from RTV to ITV so may have missed the wind direction. But the Goodwood straight goes from East to West and wind direction according to BBC is pretty much South to North. However, having been a member at Goodwood, it can have its own micro-climate.

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    #1449874
    Avatar photoMiddle_Of_March
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    Suedois shortening a little. Good to see.

    I really think he’s a cracking each way bet here. This race will collapse up front and he will be rattling home late. He loves this contest too. Two very good runs the last two years in the race. At the 9/1 I took yesterday, I’m actually very confident he’s going to go well and I wouldn’t trade him for anything in the race.

    #1449876
    Mike007
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    Zaaki might pick em off. not had a bet.

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    Well done winners.

    Happy to get my place with Suedois but I can’t help but be abit gutted. Came flying with a run and then was absolutely nailed from Donjuan Triumphant who went off like a 4f sprint in America and was always going to come back to them.

    Suedois then ran on for third when incredibly getting going again but the bird had flown with the winner. A messy race.

    #1449881
    FinalFurlong91
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    Got first run on all the other closers and looked the winner miles out

    Excellent ride from mosse, made sure he got a better sit than last year

    Clearly the wind has stopped the rain from getting into the ground

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    Well done winners. Hey Gaman has one speed and that’s it!

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    Well done all those who kept the faith with Elsworth. :good: First winner for 50+ runners, since the Fred Darling. Hey Gamen propably didn’t do his chances any good by being out alone in the wind and going after Donjuan (who was too free). That said, Sir Dancealot had the best form of all these, so right horse won. :good:

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    #1449934
    Frenchy15
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    Absolutely kicking myself here, talked myself into doubting the trainer form when it was blind smackingly obvious. Horses for courses indeed! Had the first 2 home here as well but somehow ended up with almost no profit. :wacko:

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