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Last year’s winner Sir Dancealot jumps out immediately, but I also like the idea of him for The Sussex, and there are plenty of others to chew over….
https://www.oddschecker.com/horse-racing/ante-post-racing/flat/lennox-stakes/winner
I definitely won’t be betting early on this, but there are a few I like along with last year’s winner.
Considering he didn’t get his ground last year, I thought that Donjuan Triumphant ran a decent race, and should it be a wet Goodwood, which can happen, then he could be big at 33’s.
A wet week would be ideal for the improving Snazzy Jazzy as well. Followed him since his early days, and this looks the natural progression for him. Weather permitting of course.
Three others on the shortlist all impressed last week, namely Cape Byron, Dream of Dreams, and Space Traveller, and they’re all considered as well at this stage.
Definitely no bet for now.
SPACE TRAVELLER 10/1
Winner of Jersey stakes at Ascot got a bit luck there but that win good for him and trainer said he going here next and decent price of winning here to.
Never No More is an interesting candidate at 12-1, but he also has an entry in The Sussex.
Totally agree Darren, Space Traveller still well on the radar for me, but still no bet.
Buckers, been looking at Never No More, and agree, very interesting here, but I’d just slightly favour The Sussex.
Entries for both races means I’ll happily leave him alone for now.
Hey Gaman is interesting me in this now, solid 7F Pattern form this year, only Romanised too good last time and he could still be a group 1 horse this season, so no disgrace in that. Decent draw in the middle, so should still be able to race fairly prominently I would think, which seems to suit.
Not sure why Zaaki is favourite actually.
I backed sir dancealot earlier in the week
Worried the ground will have gone against him now
Anyone know if today’s weather missed goodwood?
I have no idea why Zaaki’s favourite he’s got the worst draw, he’s dropping back from a mile which I don’t think he wants particularly and most crucially of all I thought he hated coming down the hill at Epsom despite winning there earlier in the season, looked badly outpaced at one stage over 8.5F before getting up comfortably enough close home, the undulations and downhill section of this in a better race could find him out.
Hey Gaman looks rock solid really and ticks all the boxes. I’m just a bit unsure about him on the track as he’s quite a big horse and might be better on more conventional tracks but I’d have him as favourite.
That said Watching back last years race pretty much everything that could go wrong went wrong for Sir Dancealot and he still managed to win, should have been by further than the winning margins so I’d expect him to confirm form with Suedois and Breton Rock and Donjuan Triumphant who had a very wide draw that day (he’s not drawn brilliantly here) and had plenty of use made out of him to get across and then when in front, he stayed on well to only go down narrowly and he wouldn’t be a 25/1 shot for me but I don’t see him winning. Most of the rain should miss Goodwood before Tuesday, looks dry today and was good ground when last reported yesterday.
I’ll wait for today’s going report but if it’s still good ground and forecast little to no rain I’ll be backing Sir Dancealot to follow up, I’m a big horses for courses man and you can write off his two runs this season over a mile as he doesn’t stay that far and the ground was much too soft at York last time, his Lockinge run was actually okay considering that was a Group 1 over a mile.
I just had a look back at the Lockhinge for Sir Dancealot as well and actually that was a pretty good run, picked up nicely from off the pace and going well with every chance about 1.5F out before blatantly not staying as expected. His form is rock solid at 7F, can’t argue with that. Last five 11115, last one being in a Group1. Can’t have any draw excuses for that Group 1 race as the winner was drawn inside him but still, it was a Group1, so this is a step down and doesn’t look the strongest renewal.
2 concerns with him are David Elsworth form is not good this season and the other one; you could look at his run last year in one of two ways. 1) Everything went wrong for him and he still won OR 2) He got very lucky to get out from where he was and will need all that luck again as he’s drawn 2 (last year drawn 3). He’s very likely going to have to do the same sort of race all over again. Will he get lucky again?
Agree with the Sir Dancelot shouts and Frenchy/FF’s slight worries. So for the moment i won’t be getting involved.
Zaaki very much worth taking on.I do think Hey Gaman is the solid one and i’d agree with Tin Man he should really be the fav? However, as good as Safe Voyage has been this year, the ground really went against him, and he was on HG’s tail. There has to be a slight question mark over the form?
Space Traveller is quite hard to workout, obviously surprised at Ascot, but Fahey did say as a 2yo they thought he’d be this good, but he’s taken longer than they thought. Who knows but i’d probably side with him finding one too good.
Suedois has a habit of finding one or two too good, he’ll run his race though and perhaps look a danger late on as he often does.
Speak in Colours upped in trip is interesting and it could go either way, i’d prefer to watch his first go over 7f. Not certain to suit on pedigree however, there have been occasions where in his races it’s looked like it might!
Pretty Baby was one i was looking at last week as a possible bet when she was much bigger, but the race has cut up now + i wasn’t certain she’d run. Doyler riding her at Ascot suggests they do like her. She had her stamina to prove at a mile and also the ground would’ve made that harder. Whilst Move Swiftly was ridden at the back + Rawdaa was proven already over further. She just stopped that day but i was happy to forgive it at bigger prices, not so sure now. Her Goodwood win doesn’t look too bad, she had One Master behind her.
So far it’s a race i can’t be sure on what i’d back. Probably a slight fancy for Pretty Baby.
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Hindsight is 20/20 so make the most of it!That’s an interesting shout Jack. She has loads to find to win this race usually, but looks an all out 7F horse and these races more times than not go to specialist 7F runners. I think 1 or 2 will beat her, but EW is a very good shout, maybe actually to place market I’ll look at her in the morning.
Yeah Frenchy, she certainly does have a good bit to find. I wouldn’t be sure i’d be a backer at 14s now. I’m partly interested in her as she’s only ran 7times and Haggas is very good with fillies and has quite a few of them that are relatively similar. I don’t know what the reasoning behind Doyler choosing PB at Ascot was, but Move Swiftly was backed on the day, so i wouldn’t say PB was clear best of the two, but i suppose at 106, she is now rated 6pds worse than MS. With obvious excuses such as trip + ground at Ascot, i’d hope she’d returned to being progressive? If that’s the case, 106 could be more like 109/110 and with the fillies allowance she’d be right up there.
That’s a theory anyway, and it’s a windy one so that’s why i’m just marginally favouring her at this stage. She’s doesn’t hasn’t won listed/graded races by far, so she could be either still unexposed or just not as good. The race itself isn’t top notch so i can see why Haggas it rolling the dice.
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Hindsight is 20/20 so make the most of it!Think I’ll just stick with the original fancy here, Sir Dancealot. Tricky looking race, but rock solid G2 line up.
He’s currently 13-2, so I’ll try to beat that.
Backed Sir Dancealot last year. Am a great fan of fellow Chutite David Elsworth, but no getting away from the long losing run. Last time trainer was in good form was imo at the Lockinge meeting (had Fred Darling winner) and that also where Sir Dancealot ran ok considering the trip. He’s also a hold up horse and although it’s a fairly big field, I can’t find much pace at all. Even so, if Elsworth was back in form then may have taken a chance Sir Dancealot returns to his best too. But although one or two have run well in defeat recently, not enough for me to get involved.
Hey Gamen isn’t value on “form”, but imo is because he’s the most likely front runner. Frankie a bonus too. Goodwood’s 7f is particularly favourable for those getting a soft lead. Better than result last time out in Ireland, going after the leader too soon. In contrast to Sir Dancealot, Hey Gamen’s trainer James Tate is in excellent form.
Space Traveller was dropped out at Ascot and may not get the run of the race this time and Fahy has a poor Goodwood record. I’m not as worried about Zaaki coming back in trip or draw – travels well and is a hold up horse anyway – can go staight across to at or near the rail out the back. However, that posi seems unlikely to be an advantage here. That said, if they do go fast enough to bring hold up horses in to it then Zaaki would be imo some way the best of them.
If connections thought Pretty Baby is not at her best after Ascot, could’ve gone for a repeat Oak Tree Stakes at this 7f against her own sex. Ran really well first time up and progressive before the Duke Of Cambridge. Five wins and two seconds up to that mile contest. Beaten before stamina could’ve been an issue, but further back than usual that day. Maybe better suited by racing prominently at this trip and that style might pay off here.
Donjuan Triumphant often races prominently and has run well in this before, but needs rain and might end up a non-runner if not getting it. One to bear in mind at a big price if getting it, but shouldn’t really be good enough anyway.
Flaming Spear could be interesting if there’s a market move from gambling connections, but is another hold up horse along with previous winner/past his best Breton Rock.
Suedois beaten a short head in last year’s race and just over half length in 2017… Is in good form and trainer also in good form. Sometimes held up, sometimes tracks pace. Doesn’t win often, but is consistent and in first time cheek pieces worth a chance at a double figure price.
Speak In Colours is in good form and can race prominently, but will he when going up in trip? Form looks exposed at shorter trips so has to improve for this longer distance.
Have backed Hey Gamen @ 7/2, Pretty Baby 14/1 and Suedois 11/1.
Value Is EverythingSuedois is a mad price at 9/1 here. He loves the race, is very consistent and you’d think this would have been the main aim for him this season based on his placed finished in the last two years.
If the race collapses from the front late on as it so often does, he will come rattling through late and, if getting luck in running, is sure to run a big one.
Suedois @ 9/1 E/W
GT, whats your take on the race last year if you think there’s not much pace this year as Donjuan Triumphant went off and set a good gallop last year and the first 2 home came from the back. Why would that not likely happen again this year?
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