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    Venture to CognacVenture to Cognac
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    All eyes will probably be on Honeysuckle, but I’m still holding out hope that she’ll go The Champion Hurdle route. If she does go here, a proper star attraction.

    https://www.racingpost.com/racecards/187/leopardstown/2019-12-28/746403

    The potential clash with Benie Des Dieux is a mouthwatering one, but from a personal point of view, I’m excited about a possible return for Elliot’s Sutton Place.

    Smashing horse who never looked 100% over fences, and though he’s always been incredibly fragile, and they’ve never really fancied him as a Cheltenham horse, as unlikely as it is, I’d love to see him develop into a dark one for The Stayers Hurdle.

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    FinalFurlong91
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    Difficult to look past penhill or benie des dieux depending which one Mullins runs

    #1476425
    jackh1092jackh1092
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    Wasn’t sure what to make of penhill FF- well beat! Hasn’t the worst record fresh either

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    #1476426
    Ray1891
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    PENHILL wants further if they all fly off at a pace hes almost always out of the race

    #1476434
    FinalFurlong91
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    He was a massive drifter in the market jack

    I took that as him not being anywhere near race fit and this just being to blow out the cobwebs for Christmas

    #1476460
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    Market up…..

    https://www.oddschecker.com/horse-racing/ante-post-racing/national-hunt/leopardstown-christmas-hurdle/winner

    They’ve put Sutton Place in at 33’s, but I’m not biting.

    #1476501
    EuroalienEuroalien
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    Honeysuckle at 8’s is tempting……

    #1476588
    jackh1092jackh1092
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    Doubt she runs Euroalien.

    Yep he was a drifter, so was Bacardys.

    This race is really cutting up.

    Benie- pulled muscle, probs makes it.

    Apples- hard to trust.

    Bacardys- v beatable.

    If the Cap Fits- Trainer said Long Walk is the plan facing Paisley. Are they mad? Run him here.

    Honeysuckle- won’t run

    Penhill- probably, but has it to prove now.

    Please run If the Cap Fits Mr Fry!

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    #1476591
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    haha Jack. If The Cap Fits will take on Paisley Park and I am looking forward to the clash. Harry Fry isn’t going to duck it, why should he, the pressure will be on Paisley to justify his 4/7 odds.

    Harry Fry quote; “We can go forward with confidence and look forward to the challenge of If The Cap Fits in the Long Walk. It will not be easy but he is a true three miler and we will give it a go.”

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    jackh1092jackh1092
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    Harry Fry isn’t going to duck it, why should he, the pressure will be on Paisley to justify his 4/7 odds.

    Why shouldn’t he?

    Paisley is the best 3miler in ENG/IRE. Benie has a pulled muscle which ruled her out of Sunday, no certainty to be back, and if she is, she might not be fully straight.

    Benie first time up or Paisley??

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    Benie first time up after a setback against Paisley I would go with Paisley.

    Paisley was the best 3 mile hurdler last season, but ITCF didn’t run at Cheltenham. I backed ITCF for the Stayers Hurdle part way through last season at 16-1 as I thought the horse was crying out for 3 miles. The owners didn’t go to Cheltenham with him so I cashed out. Am on again at 10s this time as an each way alternative to the favourite once I knew they were planning to go this time. I think he has potential.
    To win first time over 2 mile 3 when I thought he had no chance over a trip likely too short these days and giving weight was both a bonus and very encouraging.

    I do rate PP as well of course. So lets see them get it on!

    #1476612
    jackh1092jackh1092
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    Ok- don’t think you’re getting my point 100%.

    The race in Ireland is going to majorly cut up. Alternatively, he can run in the Long Walk against the best 3miler.

    Can’t see why as an owner or trainer of the horse, you’d want to take the harder option.

    I’m not saying IFCFs should run scared of Paisley, just that it makes sense to go to the easier option + face PP at Chelt.

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    No benie des dieux unfortunately

    If penhill is anything like the horse that won the 2018 stayers hurdle surely this is his to lose

    And at 9/2-5/1 you are getting a good price too

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    Apples Jade for me. She’s clearly not quite the force that she was, but she surely has another big run in there somewhere. I’m not going to have a bet, but she’s the winner for me.

    #1478347
    jackh1092jackh1092
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    Really poor race.

    Apples isn’t the same mare, but she has a very good record at the track. I’d still be against her big time.
    Bacardys is the right fav, but we know how he is, he can disappoint at times. Don’t think he’s a real 3 mile star at all, but he might won’t need to be here.
    Can Penhill bounce back? Arguably if he does he’s the one to beat for me, but it’s a big if.
    Harry, 11yo getting on, but again, on his day could win this.
    Vic, i think he’ll be in here to sit prominent and if they do the same with Apples it’ll not be ideal for her. Surely doesn’t go near though.
    Dommage Pour Toi- chasing seems to be on the backburner for now. I suppose over 3 miles there’s plenty to run for over hurdles. He has plenty to find here and even his bare form is miles off, however, his win vs zero ten and easy game gives a slight hope he could progress further. It wasn’t expected that day and 3miles could unlock more if taking to it. Realistically there are 3 horses in this 158, 157 and 157 and DPT is 140! To me though, he could progress some, and the market principals are unlikely to get any better, arguably they might not run to near that. i’ve chanced him 20/1 3 places with powers.

    I think that’s a fair bet, as for me, i don’t think KVIC will be near, and after that 4 main rivals to catch.

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