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Would not use a mask in a supermarket these days, but do if going into a pharmacist / hospital / doctors Surgery (for other reasons than covid too). Or in a confined space, small convenience store, railway carriage etc… And if walking to any of those I may put the mask on before getting there. Not that am at all concerned out in the open; just so I don’t forget once at my destination. Wearing it also keeps the mask cleaner than in my pocket.
Value Is EverythingCancel that, it was a bit of a longer post I was typing up and made
no sense with this snipit. not sure how I managed to put it on. Proper
post below.Edited for Moe. Sorry Moe, it isn’t a go at Ginge, it’s out of context.
See below.But if Ginge is diabetic he is still high risk even with Omicron being much milder.
Clive, I agreed with you a couple of pages back that it was a fair comment
you’d made, but c’mon mate, how many times can you say that anyone who doesn’t
agree with yourself or Cork is mentally unstable. ie……1.(cork) “Yet I still see people with masks on outside in the open air, despite this never having been a legal requirement. I feel sorry for them. They have obviously been scared out of their wits into a state of anxiety.”
2. (Clive) “It’s all a bit pointless. If people want to wallow in fear and obsess about others then nothing we can do”
3. (Clive) “You dont get it ging and you just live in a state of permanent fear frankly”
4. (Cork) “There is no evidence to show loose fitting, cloth masks do any good at all. The WHO admitted it changed its advice due to political lobbying rather than for scientific reasons.”
I’d love to see that quote Cork
5 (Cork) “If we are supposed to be “trusting the experts”, their advice never included the use of masks outside.”
Absolutely untrue
6 (Clive) “If she thought she was protecting herself, someone her age has almost absolute zero chance of dying from Covid and very little chance of becoming seriously unwell. Her behaviour – and the behaviour of many other people – is irrational.”
Re the girl waiting on the platform at the train station. Perhaps waiting for a train ? where she should
wear a mask if she’s thinking of others.7 (Cork) “people out and about who I believe have been terrified into a state of irrational fear after a sustained campaign of gas lighting and scaremongering, openly admitted to by Sage and the Behavioural Insight Team”
Gaslighting ? c’mon Cork, putting the worst case senario to encourage people to do what the experts in
their field believed (rightly or wrongly, it doesn’t matter) will save more lives has nothing to do with Gaslighting.The point is Clive and Cork, just because someone doesn’t agree with you doesn’t mean they are “scared
out of their wits into a state of anxiety” “wallow in their fears and obsess about others” “live in a
state of permanent fear frankly” “terrified into a state of irrational fear”.If you want to put your view forward, fair enough, but stop telling everyone who think that the
measures they take make them through fear or anxiety or being scared out of their wits. It’s just
their choice. It’s equally their choice if they think you’re both off your head.I wear a mask, sometomes outside if the area is busy enough, and always in shops, because I
think about other people. As for doing it because I’m frightened, anxious or terrified out of my
mind, if you knew my circumstances, which I have no intention of talking about, you’d know I
couldn’t give a flying F$3k for myself but I like to think that I think of others .Have your say guys, but stop thinking you know what the majority of the UK are doing, and their
reasons for doing it.*Updated thanks to Cork claiming some of the quotes*
Thanks for that BigG. I was a bit taken aback as it was rather out of character. I’m also a bit emotional after reading an excerpt from a book written by a nurse about her experience of working on a covid ward. Although it didn’t tell me anything I didn’t already know it brought back a lot of memories of how I felt before the vaccines were available and how worried I was when it became apparent that younger and younger people were being affected. I think people are already forgetting how little was known about the virus in 2020. I’ve also just binge watched This is Going to Hurt: I don’t think I’ve ever cried so much watching a black comedy/dramedy, but it’s also made me remember how much I loved working for the NHS and how much I miss my job and my colleagues. And it hit home what they’ve been having to go through for the past couple of years.
Big G, you are being somewhat unfair to Clive because some of quotes you attribute to him were written by me.
I stand by everything I have written.
I hope you don’t mind me chipping in but I wanted to talk to you about masks. I have spent well over £200 on masks and one is up to operating theatre protection with big side filters. It makes me chuckle now, but I used to use this high quality mask on the tube with a visor – black beanie down to my eyes black thermal vest black jacket black shoes black socks. You could say I had taken over from Ian Davies. Yes I got some fearful and alarming looks and I may have resembled one of the four horsemen or something that Patrick Troughton would have to deal with in time. Strangely enough the flimsy mask I wear now I nabbed from the pavement and obviously gave it a good wash before my breathless love affair
. When I lost it once it was a bit like losing and arm and after walking a mile I recovered it like the prodigal son blinking up at me cold on the pavement.
A woman I spoke to in Hove told me she loved the mask in the cold weather. I also think children should wear them even after the pandemic as it gives them such expressive eyes. It’s rather useful too as they all look like the same peas in a pod – isn’t that a fairer society ? Bit difficult for the teacher to distinguish them though and I suggest little hats with numbers.
Thinking back to my schooldays around 8 years old around the time I started nicking sizeable amounts from a Scottish bookmaking firm I remember my friend Dave was always complaining about his parents meaness in giving him beans on toast for his evening meal five nights a week after school. He lived in a big house with a monkey tree, so called as it was impossible to climb, in the front garden, and his father wore a bowler and worked as a sales manager at Esso in the citi. Well Dave used to butter up the dinner ladies and they’d give him extra large portions and let him queue up for seconds..ie a second helping. I tried this but they told me no. I think kids which back in those days who were seen and not heard ( I was caned on a daily basis at 9.30 for not doing my history homework – better 5 minutes of excruciating than a 30 minute slog ) should all be treated the same.
I liked the film the Mask and was always drawn to the idea of a masked ball – “Oh my God she cried, I’ve taken home the village idiot.”
The masks worn on the internet were a passion of mine for many years. I spent a year trying to uncover Salty Jack and started investigating exactly where Winkleman winkled from, until Mac the knife (back then) sadly ended the latters short protesting life, and saved me possibly days or weeks of pleasurable fun unravelling him. Winkleman made the fatal error of saying page views on TRF were declining referencing google figures, and then an almighty row broke out and he met his maker.Three cheers for the mask 🌚
“Big G, you are being somewhat unfair to Clive because some of quotes you attribute to him were written by me.
I stand by everything I have written.”
Thanks for coming forward with that Cork, and apologies to Clive for laying it all at his door,
but the context hasn’t changed. I’ve updated the original to identify who said what’
It’s your prerogative to say what you think about the virus being overplayed, but as I said
it’s not for you or Clive to slur the majority of people by saying they are mentally ill for
doing what they believe in.Once again, thanks for coming forward re the quotes
I can fully understand where you’re coming from Moe, times have been hard and the
book and the series “This Is Going To Hurt” which I watched the 1st episode last night,
will bring back many memories for you. It was quite dark and very moving.I’m sure you miss your time in the NHS, you have all the right qualities for whatever
your role you had there, you have empathy by the bucket load. I’m sure they miss you as
much as you miss them. You keep yourself safe, hopefully things will get back to some form
of normality very soon If, as Ian Davies assured us, gamble knows how to spell clique properly, why does he keep writing click?
Clearly, there is only one logical conclusion: gamble is, in fact, Boris Johnson.
The rules simply don’t apply.
🍷That fully explains why I missed five Cobra meetings during the initial stages of the pandemic needing to attend to my new and demanding beautiful young wife, who already bored of my cummings needed a more novel Rees Mogg reclining style of entertainment at my substantial Chequers Country house, and to speak of material matters – I had that lucrative book deal to finish.
GOD SAVE THE QUEEN and long may she reign and cast a blind eye in the land of the blind.Gamble for PM, you know it makes sense
I’ve got a lot of respect for the Queen, despite the shenanegans of her
family, Philip, Charles, Andrew and to an extent Harry. Despite all that
She remained dignified and carried out her role, even to the age of 95.I do hope God does save the queen, just don’t expect me to ever sing that
bloody National Anthem
Bigg
I’m dropping out of these threads in the lounge now
Looking back at time wasted explaining why you can catch covid from passing cyclists convinced me of that. It’s quite bizarre and wtf
That’s what I was referring to about fear and ludicrous anxiety but it’s their problem not mine
Mind the door knob on the way out!
I've stumbled on the side of twelve misty mountains
I've walked and I crawled on six crooked highwaysI’ve just discovered a new BBC Sounds podcast called Things Fell Apart. It was mentioned at the end of the latest In Our Time and said it would be of interest to people who find themselves arguing with people on the internet about things they believe in. Following on from the nuance podcast I shall definitely listen to it. Especially as I found myself thinking to myself the other day ‘why the hell am I arguing with pro gun/anti abortion Trump supporters in America at three o’clock in the morning’. No correlation with discussions that happen in this’ere place of course….
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