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- August 1, 2011 at 13:39 #366801
"Gingertipster" wrote: It seems as though after every Group 1 winner the trainer has it’s…
"Listen, he shows so much speed"!Don’t forget the class, pace and the rest of the speed Ginger!
August 6, 2011 at 05:17 #367317You can see it yourself.
September 7, 2011 at 11:08 #370336As Ballydoyle know only too well, there’s a certain fallacy in having the best horses peak in mid-June and then getting progressively worse for the rest of the season culminating in below par efforts in races like the Arc and the Classic. So You Think will be different. He’s winning races whilst not quite been fully tuned up. The day of the Arc / Cox Plate / Classic is the day SYT should run his best race.
Well now that he is "round" I’ll be interested to see how this plays out…
Here are some quotes/articles that seem to disgree with the general consensus of opinion at the end of this thread!
Royal Ascot 2011: Rewilding victory makes Aidan O’Brien think again
By J A McGrath9:05PM BST 15 Jun 2011
Not even trainer Aidan O’Brien’s apology, claiming that he didn’t have So You Think fit enough for Wednesday’s epic running of the Prince Of Wales’s Stakes, can comfort legions of Australian punters, who believed defeat was out of the question – and bet accordingly.
Billed as the best to come from the southern hemisphere in three decades, So You Think was brave in defeat, but he failed to withstand the sustained and determined challenge launched by Frankie Dettori on the gutsy Godolphin runner Rewilding, who cut down the visitor in the dying strides to triumph by a neck.
This was the most gripping headline contest seen at Ascot since Grundy beat Bustino in the 1975 King George VI and Queen Elizabeth Stakes, which is frequently dubbed ‘the race of the century.’ It had everything, even a heart-stopping moment when the hard-pulling So You Think had to be reined back sharply to avoid the heels of his pacemaker Jan Vermeer in Swinley Bottom.
But what proved crushing disappointment for So You Think’s enormous Australian and New Zealand following – as well as Coolmore/Ballydoyle stalwarts – became a magnificent triumph for arch rivals Godolphin and a personal one for Sheikh Mohammed, who had adopted a hands-on role in the training of Rewilding.
In post-race interviews, O’Brien shocked many when he admitted: “It [the defeat] was more my fault than anyone else’s that he got beaten and all I can say is sorry. I think I just didn’t have him fit enough. I probably didn’t get stuck into him enough at home,“I would expect plenty of improvement from him. He got tired and was just caught by Frankie in the last half furlong and was
“Because he won his first two races so easily, I didn’t want to change things at home. His work has always been incredibly good. He does a demolition job at home and I think that maybe he needed to have done a bit extra because he has such a capacity for work,” O’Brien added.Ryan Moore said So You Think had
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Plenty to think about after great Royal Ascot
BY SAM WALKER 20 Jun 2011
WORLD CLASS: an analysis of the international scene according to Racing Post Ratings
Rewilding (1st Prince Of Wales’s Stakes, RPR 130)
The new kid on the middle-distance scene. Don’t yet know where he fits in with Workforce and a race fit So You Think, but this was a solid career-best effort which ranks him as middle-distance leader for the season so far.
He might not have won if Frankie hadn’t hit him so many times,
Can’t rule out another big run in the King George, although it would be hard to be confident of him repeating this result in a rematch with So You Think. Apparently needs time between races.So You Think (2nd Prince Of Wales’s Stakes, RPR 129)
What a baptism to British racing. It was a true end-to-end gallop, he went for home 3f out, opened up a lead, but came up short in the closing stages.
This result doesn’t mean he is ‘worse than’ Rewilding and it doesn’t take away from everything he has achieved to date. He was clear of the remainder and Rewilding looks a smart colt in his own right, so this was not a bad run. But, even with the hope of more to come, it has to put a slight dent in expectations for the season. Maybe we’re looking at a 132er rather than a 136er.Perhaps expectations were too high for the New Zealand-bred trying to break into racing’s middle-distance heartland?
There are hundreds of collateral lines which show that Europe is the dominant force at turf races beyond 1m2f – including in Australia, where horses like Speed Gifted, All The Good and My Kingdom Of Fife have all won Group 1s having never even raced at that level in Europe.
Despite this defeat, he still looks capable of running to a figure in the 130s and he still looks the southern hemisphere’s best chance of gaining an unprecedented championship-level middle-distance success in Europe.
they will have to chase it.
September 24, 2011 at 21:18 #371942As Ballydoyle know only too well, there’s a certain fallacy in having the best horses peak in mid-June and then getting progressively worse for the rest of the season culminating in below par efforts in races like the Arc and the Classic. So You Think will be different. He’s winning races whilst not quite been fully tuned up. The day of the Arc / Cox Plate / Classic is the day SYT should run his best race.
Well now that he is "round" I’ll be interested to see how this plays out…

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