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The ground was dreadful. I wouldn’t be hanging my hat on the form. Wouldn’t surprise me if a few turnaround the form. Can only see a French horse winning the arc I’m afraid.
Shout out to AGHAREED who has produced two high class multiple Group 1 winners.
She’s a blue hen if ever I saw one.
Here is her full output. Nice to see another full brother in the offing. What a performance, and what a horse Sea The Stars is.
2023 Out of Aghareed (USA) 20/02/2023 C Sea The Stars (IRE)-Aghareed (USA)
Waleefy (IRE) 20/05/2021 C Night of Thunder (IRE)-Aghareed (USA)
Naqeeb (IRE) 01/04/2020 C Nathaniel (IRE)-Aghareed (USA)
Zaghaareed (GB) 05/04/2019 F Intello (GER)-Aghareed (USA)
Baaeed (GB) 08/04/2018 C Sea The Stars (IRE)-Aghareed (USA)
Hukum (IRE) 02/04/2017 C Sea The Stars (IRE)-Aghareed (USA)
Al Raahba (IRE) 25/03/2016 F Frankel (GB)-Aghareed (USA)
Kasbaan (GB) 17/02/2015 G Dansili (GB)-Aghareed (USA)
Abqary (GB) 17/02/2014 G Dubawi (IRE)-Aghareed (USA)‘The ground was dreadful’
Really? Officially good to soft ground and that would appear a fair enough description today as the time was only 4.25s slower than standard.
It was run at a true gallop start to finish and there really was no hiding place on that score…..will the form be held up in the Arc…..
we know the winner will go on soft, connections of the runner up said he hated last year’s ground but he is a year older/wiser/stronger so he may well cope better with it…….the only real unknown is how good could the French Derby and Grand Prix De Paris winners are?Going back to today, yes, the fav has run a shocker (although this is the 2nd time in 4 runs he has done that), but King of Steel has run well considering he pulled a bit too hard early on, Luxembourg was ridden to obtain the best position he could (to me that is probably as good as he is).
Pyledriver, I think that may also be as good as he is (Hukum has seemingly improved markedly since he beat him in last year’s Coronation Cup by 4L and lets not forget that this race last year fell apart to the point that I am not 100% convinced that Pyledriver is a tip top G1 performer when everyone shows up on their game).
Emily Upjohn you could argue had a hard enough race at Sandown and that may have left its mark on her today, although she has pretty much replicated her run from last year so……maybe she is a more a Spring/Autumn performer???
@Louise12 spot on re STS
.Well done all Hukum backers especially Graham (BigG)and Nathan..what a fighter he is.
Auguste Rodin..no idea why he ran such a bad race but quite a few bubbles burst in that particulat race. I wonder which will be first to romp home in their next race. Possible King Of Steel out of them all
JacThings turn out best for those who make the best of how things turn out...It was the distances between horses that sets alarm bells off for me. Has there be anything regards Emily upjohn. Can’t have westover going so close after hammered at Epsom. I’m sure hukum is a good horse but ace impact can rest easy watching that.
WESTOVER is fairly consistent though? Don’t think he’s ever had a shocker.
AUGUST RODIN seems overhyped to be perfectly honest. Neither of his Group 1 wins this season were all that 🤷♀️.
As somebody else said, EMILY UPJOHN didn’t perform in this race last year. Hopefully she gets a break now.
4.25s slow for 1m4f is 0.35s per furlong – no worse than Good to Soft.
If you think it was “dreadful ground” you’re unlikely to be impressed with the surface on Arc Day most years.
It was never a “race for the ages” (another cringe expression).
Highest OR going into it was 124 and Hukum may have only had to run to his 122 to win it.
I can’t comment on overhype as I never listen to it.
But it wasn’t a bad Derby and the form worked out alright immediately afterwards.
But Auguste Rodin manifestly has issues – TWO shockers from four starts this year now – and King Of Steel doesn’t look quite as good on an easy surface to me.
Plenty in behind ran shockers.
But Hukum is a physical monster, hugely likeable, and I’d say Westover ran a career-best just about.
They wouldn’t be within a stone of the best ever King George winners, but that doesn’t matter – it was a cracking race and many of us who backed Hukum and had expected him to be favourite still can’t believe his SP.
He was virtually the same price (7.6) on the machine, which is rare abd tells its own story.
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"It was a very good race and as ive got hukum in 3 out of my 4 ten to follow stables was shouting him home. Watching the two favourites walking up to the line does put a wee downer on it. Just too many ran miles below form to make it a top renewal. Agree re the hype. Nobody on here falls for it but the larger public do unfortunately. Hope a rodin and emily upjohn run decent arc trials. Baffling how the filly can scoot in in October on testing ground yet bombs out again in the k george. A rodin definitely seems workforce mk 2.
Emily upjohn had a very hard race in the eclipse
Not surprising that she struggled yesterday
Simon Rowlands has the winner a below average winner which sort of confirms what our eyes tell us. Just no superstars at 12f it seems. On to Paddington to see what he can do at goodwood.
Paddington’s collateral form is now looking….er somewhat underwhelming now to say the least.
He really will need to dish out a right drubbing to Inspiral & Modern Games off the back of receiving 4lbs & 7lbs from them respectively.
Lets hope he doesn’t have a similar power running out issue like Auguste Rodin apparently did according to O’Brien.
Hopefully not taken too much out of himself in the eclipse. Got a few more days to recover. Should win comfortably but they are not machines. I wonder if he’ll end up in the arc and auguste rodin the breeders Cup. I’m sure the lads must be thinking about it.
I think we’re always looking for champions but they only happen every few years. Let’s hope Paddington is top notch.
Looks like Crowley has got a whip ban but Hornby hasn’t. I wasn’t disturbed by the whip use by either jockey. Others have already questioned Hornby’s though. Winning distance was a head. If winning jockey broke the rules, placings should be reversed. Not saying this would be right or fair but either have these ridiculous rules and enforce them or change them to something more realistic.
we know the winner will go on soft, connections of the runner up said he hated last year’s ground but he is a year older/wiser/stronger so he may well cope better with it…….the only real unknown is how good could the French Derby and Grand Prix De Paris winners are?
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