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King George and Queen Elizabeth Diamond Stakes 2019

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    Avatar photoGingertipster
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    For sure soft ground in the POW brought stamina in to play. But Crystal Ocean’s performance rating in the POW has nothing at all to do with Sea Of Class, Nathan. Has everything to do with how easily he beat Magical – just as easily as Enable beat the same horse in the Eclipse.

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    #1449501
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    What an spectacular race.
    Top three brilliant race horses and Enable is the superstar of the world. Bravo.

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    greenasgrass
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    Hard as nails she is :heart:

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    Brilliant race! :heart:

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    Mike007
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    Great race. Having backed Enable at 7-4 and Waldgeist at 33s for the Arc happy with that. Waldgeist on quicker ground will be interesting.

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    Crystal Ocean deserves plenty of praise too. But even though he would’ve won me a fair wedge; in the final strides found myself willing the filly on. :heart:

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    #1449508
    Frenchy15
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    Crystal Ocean is the better horse then :whistle:

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    On ratings, Crystal Ocean comes out higher than Enable, Frenchy. However, when talking about the best/better horse, I do believe we should always add the female allowance to that rating.

    Just a reminder for those who believe all horses should carry the same weight – Enable would not have won today.

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    #1449512
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    She is bigger than him so he did well to give away 3lb and finish so close; but the way she got out of trouble and fought for the win was brilliant. She is the best.

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    “Just a reminder for those who believe all horses should carry the same weight – Enable would not have won today.”

    Disagree.

    Although on paper Enable only won courtesy of her mares’ allowance, she was only just doing enough and would still have won that race at level weights.

    Racing isn’t always about the pure numbers.

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    FinalFurlong91
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    Brilliant filly

    Got caught much further back than normal and won anyway

    Frankie only hit her with the whip properly once well over a furlong out and was clearly very confident he was going to win

    Normally if a prominent runner got caught that far back they’d have no chance but this is a special horse

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    Don’t be fooled by the distance, she had loads in hand over a horse in the form of his life.

    Frankie didn’t even use the shillelagh in the last furlong, she’s a special filly alright!

    It’s a massive ask for her to win a 3rd arc but, if she can, she has to go down as an all time great.

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    If we don’t know the exact racing weight of a race horse plus the true distance it has travelled in the race, then there is no reason to talk about useless stuff like mares allowances. She travelled further than the runner up and received less “encouragement” from the whip.
    I think she has loads in hand…. and would have won if they had carried the same weight.

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    FinalFurlong91
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    She doesn’t see to do a tap in front these days

    Brilliant side angle zoomed in replay on sky sports racing

    You can see crystal ocean get his nose back in front then enable eyeballs him and goes again

    The only thing that will stop a third arc is a bad draw I reckon

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    Thankfully this one lived up to the hype. Two great horses putting on a superb display.
    Both deserve praise and Frankie deserves a medal for having to change plans, more than
    once, and still come through to win. I’d love to see a rematch in the Arc :good:

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    ham
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    One tap of the whip, id say shes got s tad smarter from her 3yo career and knows what she has to do and does only that now, betfair pushed her out to 7/4, brave, most shortened her, whats going to beat her exactly the only two that she hasnt beaten are sotsass and japan? Japan wont be good enough and i highly doubt sotsass will be capable of running 128+

    Whoever said the draw could be right, but jesus she had a shocking race today and still won fairly comfortably, always just doing enough!

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    FinalFurlong91
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    Such a massive shame about sea of class

    Throw her into that race today and it couldve been the best in living memory if all 3 ran to their best

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