June 10, 2002 at 19:28 #99445AidanMember
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So come on then Escorial price up the rematch……………… Rock Of Gibraltar and Hawk Wing over a mile. Good-Firm ground at the Curragh with no track bias. I will be interested to see your prices!!!June 10, 2002 at 20:48 #99452
you keep putting coolmore succes down to money bu the aga khan khalid abdulla and salman (thouroughbred corp) wafic said have far more wealth<br>than coolmore
regarding horse prices
high chapperall 270000 gns
hawk wing 300,000 usd (although not bought at the sales by coolmore asscoaitates
johnaasburg usd 240000 (sold at a loss of usd60000)
these three all group 1 winners may be expensive by some standards but not by any means near the top level of purchases much cheaper than bandari or fight your corner (sold for Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â£2m each ) also many stables cecil stoute hills dunlop (e and j) contain many horses of similar or more expensive prices
so perhaps the blame for the lack of challengers lies closer to homeJune 10, 2002 at 21:11 #99455
a little naughty perhaps but u must admit a good bit of sales manship there the original owners pocketing more than if they had won the derby.
<br> when u say top bidder are u referring to the top lot singularly or the greatest spenders overall (u may well find different as has been in past)
perhaps wehn the sales start in sept a competition could be held top lot price etc etc.June 11, 2002 at 05:51 #99456
Good Morning Escorial,
I think (for the moment) that Sakhee is the right choice for the Arc, as well I wouldnÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢t rush to get the 7/2 offered. Good where he will run this season and we often saw Godolphin making some ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…â€œunpredictableÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã‚ÂJune 11, 2002 at 05:53 #99457
Here is the full text from Timeform
Timeform:<br>With no Rebelline, Nayef or Sakhee, nor a challenger from Ireland or France, not the renewal it might have been for a race which had been continuing to attract some of the season’s top older horses in most recent years, despite repeated small fields, but it still drew 2 Group 1 winners, one of whom ran out a worthy winner in the conditions; the pace was steady, the race again coming alive only off the home turn, where they bunched to the rail. BOREAL (GER) recorded a career-best effort and now bids for the King George at Ascot; his task here wasn’t so stiff as it might have been on the day and everything dropped right for him, but equally he shouldn’t be underestimated in the top races to come as he’s undoubtedly a high-class colt; soon handy, he was first to the stand rail off the turn and ran on strongly after the runner-up had threatened briefly once switched from behind him, well on top at the finish; a stocky colt, who looked well, his record suggests he needs something of an emphasis on stamina when racing over this trip, so presumably he’ll need similar going to make a real impact at Ascot. STORMING HOME will be one of the stronger contenders for the Hardwicke Stakes at Royal Ascot, reportedly his next intended target, as he’s unpenalised in that event for his success at the meeting last year; he again shaped as though he retains all his ability, waited with and briefly short of room on the rail before being unable to stay on nearly so strongly as the winner once switched round him; his trainer reportedly reckons that he’s a better horse on firmer going, and whether or not that’s true (has won on soft), Storming Home does go well on firm. ZINDABAD (FR), reverting in trip, does just struggle a bit at the highest level (at least over 12f), not that there was much wrong with this performance, as he plugged on willingly after setting the tempo to the straight; though by no means out of things in the Hardwicke, he does have a small penalty for York. MARIENBARD (IRE), for no obvious reason, was disappointing, failing to pick up at all when ridden after 3f out, tending to edge left as he was carried down the camber by his stable-companion; he does have form on any going. PAWN BROKER, even though he isn’t really up to beating the very best, again offered little indication he might be rejuvenated and remains one to have reservations about. KUTUB (IRE) couldn’t have looked in better shape but ran lamentably, hanging left and quickly in trouble once asked to improve; at a subsequent enquiry his rider told the stewards the horse lost his action; given he’s shown his form many times on soft/heavy ground, his performance was completely baffling.June 12, 2002 at 09:11 #99458
Escorial I agreee with you that this years C. Cup was not the strongest in history. The only point I am ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…â€œfightingÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã‚ÂJune 12, 2002 at 11:06 #99459
an interesting summary for which u may be surprised but i agree with.
with regard to your comments on another thread i also agree that your (i presume from the way u speak above u are german) breeding industry is coming on (although it is a long the old fashioned lines based on stamina rather than the more fashionable speed angle)
i have been to germany many times but have never really found it to be so much wetter tha over here but are your races run very much on soft/heavy ground or is this a biased comment (taken from newspapers not my own)June 12, 2002 at 12:04 #99460
Prince Regent, yes you are right I am from Germany. :pimp:
You are as well right (in my opinion) about German Bloodlines… as they favour much more horses for the Derby Distance. And there is no German horse what was or is able to compete with the best in Europe in Sprint Races.
With the weather and ground I can not agree with you. I would say that the ground is mostly good or good/soft. But sometimes you have a wet year like last season where all Group I Races were held on Ground good-soft or softer.<br>
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