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    paulostermeyerpaulostermeyer
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    Kauto Star is only 50-50 to make the Cheltenham Gold Cup after a fall schooling late last week.

    Paul Nicholls has reported the following, “Kauto took a tumble when Ruby schooled him at the end of last week. I say tumble, but in truth it was a pretty awful fall.

    “Clive (Smith, the owner) was obviously consulted at all times and we immediately got Kauto checked over. Even though he trotted sound, it was plain to see that he was sore afterwards.

    “He has had the best veterinary and physiotherapy care possible but we hoped that he would be showing more improvement by now.”
    Nichollswent on to say, “Next week is crucial for the horse.

    “He is still cantering each day but I can assure you right now that Kauto Star won’t be going anywhere near Cheltenham unless we are all convinced – Clive Smith, myself, Clifford and the team here – that he is 110 per cent right.

    “Even if there is the slightest doubt in our minds, then he stays at home. No question. We will do what is best for the horse. Always have, always will. End of story.”

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    TuffersTuffers
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    Gut feeling from that is he won’t run. Mixed feelings as it would have been nice to see him run but my Antepost bet on Weird Al now looks even better :wink:

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    SteeplechasingSteeplechasing
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    It sounds like it happened a week ago. They should have made an announcement then imo – I haven’t backed him but quite a few will have and I wonder how many did so in the past 7 days?

    What was there to lose for connections to announce as soon as it happened?

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    bozlikebozlike
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    Gut feeling from that is he won’t run. Mixed feelings as it would have been nice to see him run but my Antepost bet on Weird Al now looks even better :wink:

    Unusual thing to say. I think if I had my mortgage on another horse I’d hope for Kauto to run. Such an awful way to(probably) end such a stellar career. Shame on you Tuffers for thinking with your wallet.

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    TuffersTuffers
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    Unusual thing to say. I think if I had my mortgage on another horse I’d hope for Kauto to run. Such an awful way to(probably) end such a stellar career. Shame on you Tuffers for thinking with your wallet.

    Er, that’s why I said

    mixed

    feelings :roll:

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    bozlikebozlike
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    Heathen :!:

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    GingertipsterGingertipster
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    It sounds like it happened a week ago. They should have made an announcement then imo – I haven’t backed him but quite a few will have and I wonder how many did so in the past 7 days?

    What was there to lose for connections to announce as soon as it happened?

    I can understand it taking a while Joe, a day or two. But 6 days is longer than it should be. Although it appears nothing "got out" of the stable. Not much if any change over the last few days on betfair. However, that doesn’t help those who backed the horse without knowing of any problems. It’s also a bit odd that it seems if Kauto had recovered quickly we wouldn’t have heard of this. Certainly had it been Long Run, someone would be throwing things at Henderson.

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    #394361
    SteeplechasingSteeplechasing
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    Ruby was here on Friday morning to school some of our big guns. He schooled Kauto Star, Big Buck’s, Al Ferof and Join Together to name but four and I was delighted with them all.

    PFN, Saturday column

    Very poor from a man who seldom blunders on the PR front

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    Ruby was here on Friday morning to school some of our big guns. He schooled Kauto Star, Big Buck’s, Al Ferof and Join Together to name but four and I was delighted with them all.

    PFN, Saturday column

    Very poor from a man who seldom blunders on the PR front

    That one line alone is very poor form. Originally I was of the opinion that giving Kauto a chance to bounce back in training was fair enough, but to come out with that in his column is a disgrace.

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    #394363
    TuffersTuffers
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    Full statement from PN:

    As a trainer, it is all too easy to sit on information when it comes to your horses.

    They have so many minor worries, niggles and setbacks – most of which turn out to be nothing of long-term importance – that you could be constantly updating on each of your string, to the press and the public, on a hourly, daily and weekly basis.

    But our policy at Ditcheat is always to be up front and honest about the well-being of our horses – such as the coughing scare last week – and especially so when it is a public, and once-in-a-lifetime horse, such as Kauto.

    In my opinion, the public have a right to know. In many ways, he is as much theirs, as Clive Smith’s and ours.

    So I am sad to report that his participation at the Cheltenham Festival is in doubt.

    Kauto took a tumble when Ruby schooled him at the end of last week. I say tumble, but in truth it was a pretty awful fall.

    Clive was obviously consulted at all times and we immediately got Kauto checked over. Even though he trotted sound, it was plain to see that he was sore afterwards.

    He has had the best veterinary and physiotherapy care possible but we hoped that he would be showing more improvement by now.

    I spoke to Clifford after returning to the stables after a Cheltenham media day yesterday, and he said Kauto still wasn’t fully recovered, remained quite stiff, and in his wise words he felt he was "only 50-50" to make the Festival at this stage.

    So I immediately spoke to Clive and we felt that it prudent that we put out this update today.

    Next week is crucial for the horse.

    He is still cantering each day but I can assure you right now that Kauto Star won’t be going anywhere near Cheltenham unless we are all convinced – Clive Smith, myself, Clifford and the team here – that he is 110 per cent right.

    Even if there is the slightest doubt in our minds, then he stays at home. No question. We will do what is best for the horse. Always have, always will. End of story.

    But, along with Desert Orchid, I suppose if ever a horse has captured the public’s love and imagination it is Kauto Star. We saw that when he won the Betfair Chase at Haydock.

    It even had this old cynic bursting with pride for the horse, fighting back the tears on my proudest and most emotional day as a trainer.

    So, of course, it will be devastating for all concerned if Kauto Star wasn’t able up to line up on March 16 and try to win a third Gold Cup. Because he has been in the form of his life this season.

    But one thing I think we have all learned with Kauto is never to write him off.

    Yes, having this setback so close to the Festival is clearly a major concern, but don’t confuse Kauto’s kind and inquisitive nature with softness.

    He is a hard so-and-so too – you learn to be when your best mate is Denman – and it wouldn’t surprise me in the slightest if he was back firing on all cylinders at home before Cheltenham, and went on to beat Long Run for a third time this season.

    But at this stage his participation does hang in the balance.

    I know a lot of the press read this column, so I would just like to take this opportunity to say that this will be my only public comment on this subject today and I have nothing more to add at this stage.

    But I will give daily updates on the horse from tomorrow onwards

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    TuffersTuffers
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    Clive Smith sounded pretty downbeat on 5 live just now.

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    Poor, poor effort on the PR front from the normally sure-footed Nicholls.

    What on earth was wrong with saying, last weekend, "Kauto had a fall when schooling. He appears sound but obviously we’ll need to monitor him closely and we’ll issue updates as further information on his well-being comes to light"

    #394367
    phil walkerphil walker
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    I’ve been finding it harder than usual to get excited by this year’s Cheltenham Festival, and if Kauto doesn’t run that will just add to my gloom.

    #394369
    TuffersTuffers
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    Poor, poor effort on the PR front from the normally sure-footed Nicholls.

    What on earth was wrong with saying, last weekend, "Kauto had a fall when schooling. He appears sound but obviously we’ll need to monitor him closely and we’ll issue updates as further information on his well-being comes to light"

    I suspect, Corm, for the same reason (as PN points out in his statement) that if the trainer briefed you on every incident then he would be constantly making statements.

    Just from my knowledge of all the horses we have owned, I can tell you that if I told you about every thing that had happened to each horse, you would never be able to back one with confidence. It doesn’t do anyone a service to tell them about every little thing. I presume that PN thought KS would be fine after a couple of days but that assessment turned out to be incorrect so he decided to go public.

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    cormack15cormack15
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    Even though he trotted sound, it was plain to see that he was sore afterwards.

    I hear what you are saying Tuffers – but it’s Kauto Star, it’s a HUGE betting race and it is clear (above) that this was no minor incident.

    I can understand their reticence but I also think there needs to be some thought given to people betting their hard-earned cash. Some might say the owner/trainer have no responsibility to the bettor. I say otherwise.

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