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- July 11, 2023 at 00:08 #1654998
Was the commonwealth cup a good race?
3rd, 4th, 5th and 6th all rated between 104-107 and beaten 3 lengths or less
With noble style, sakheer and LBB not looking like they’ve trained on this doesn’t look like the best 3yo crop
Shaquille looks a crap price to me
Certainly not saying he can’t win, it’s not a strong race of course he can, but I’m very dubious about the strength of that race at this point
he’s much too short to consider backing imo
Kinross will take some beating if the ground is gd to soft or worse
July 11, 2023 at 05:06 #1655004“Was the commonwealth cup a good race?
3rd, 4th, 5th and 6th all rated between 104-107 and beaten 3 lengths or less
Kinross will take some beating if the ground is gd to soft or worse”The 2nd horse he beat is a good horse who beat Bradsell, another 3 year old, who won the King Stand. These 3 year olds look ok to me. One can pick holes in 6 year old Kinross’s sole sprint race win in his 21 starts if one wishes to. 3 and 4 year olds have dominated this race in recent years. 9 of the last 10, the only other winner being a 5 year old.
My shortlist was the favoured age group. Shaquille, LBB, Azure Blue. I sided with Shaquille as he seems to go on most ground, unbeaten over 6f, won a group 1 last time despite fluffing the start, and LBB has reportedly had an interrupted preparation.July 11, 2023 at 07:35 #1655005I think a lot might depend on the ground.
Kinross needs cut and while Shaquille has won on Soft the form that makes him favourite for this was on a quicker surface.
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"July 11, 2023 at 10:25 #1655012“The 2nd horse he beat is a good horse who beat Bradsell”
Bradsell didn’t run remotely close to his best at haydock
July 12, 2023 at 00:14 #1655065GM23 will be cashing out his kinross 20/1 bet I imagine
Buick will be riding Kinross
July 13, 2023 at 00:02 #165513612mm put on the track on Tuesday more to be added today
Seems a tad excessive from the clerk
Good for kinross
But can’t see why doing anything other than watering to maintain good to firm was needed
Cold case is the interesting 3yo at the prices imo
July 13, 2023 at 03:50 #1655145Probably to maintain good ground rather than good to firm. Not that there is anything wrong with good to firm as you say.
July 13, 2023 at 11:48 #1655162Art Power David Allan
Emaraaty Ana Neil Callan
Khaadem Rob Hornby
Kinross William Buick
Run To Freedom Trevor Whelan
Azure Blue Paul Mulrennan
Vadream Kieran Shoemark
Little Big Bear Ryan Moore
Shaquille Rossa Ryan
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"July 14, 2023 at 14:03 #1655313Wouldn’t be surprised if kinross goes off fav or joint fav
July 14, 2023 at 17:28 #1655365In fact it’s already happened and he is fav on betfair atm
40mph winds possible tomorrow
Getting some cover from that will be the winning and losing of this race
It is a huge variable that will give the horses that escape the worst of it a massive advantage
July 14, 2023 at 18:21 #1655371I’ve went with Vadream at 20-1 ew. I agree though with the positivity around Kinross
July 14, 2023 at 23:22 #1655402Azure Blue for me and I’m with Eezer
EW on Vadream around 20/1.
Both will like the softer going..
JacThings turn out best for those who make the best of how things turn out...July 15, 2023 at 10:49 #1655430Ground could be the key. Lbb probably needs good to firm to show best form probably the same as the fav. I can see them being in the frame but will go for a horse used to drying soft ground. Azure blue for me.
July 15, 2023 at 11:03 #1655434Vadream at 20s, for me.
Today’s ITV televised racing has plenty of good betting opportunities – plenty to get stuck into.
Enjoy the day folks, stay disciplined, dont ‘chase’ because it could easily be one of those type of betting days.
Most of all, the very best of luck to all
July 15, 2023 at 11:09 #1655435Azure Blue has been in sparkling form for Michael Dods.
He won the Duke Of York last time out with a bit in
hand. The handicapper didn’t miss him by putting him
up 10lbs So instead of going down the handicap route,
Dods thinks he’s up to this jump in class. It’s a race
full of decent sorts, it should be a cracker.Azure Blue 4/1 Bet365
July 15, 2023 at 11:17 #1655437Could be a nlanket finish. Hopefully we have a good winner though. Division needs it.
July 15, 2023 at 11:44 #1655446Azure Blue 4-1 for me too, she’s a smashing filly !
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