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- July 9, 2021 at 14:38 #1549903
What’s the point of interviewing winning Jockeys after races, do we learn anything? or is it just a sandwich filler for the media. Me personally i believe we’d get more sence from a pork pie.
July 9, 2021 at 15:05 #1549909I agree, any comments from the jockey should be made to connections first.
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I've walked and I crawled on six crooked highwaysJuly 9, 2021 at 15:18 #1549914Agreed Purwell. I remember Richard Thornton making a point of doing so.
Value Is EverythingJuly 9, 2021 at 15:21 #1549915When it comes to what all connections – not just jockeys – say: It’s all biased opinion. Very rarely makes any difference to what I back… But as a racing enthusiast am still interested, so can keep your sandwich or even your pork pie Troy.
Value Is EverythingJuly 9, 2021 at 16:47 #1549943“I remember Richard Thornton making a point of doing so.”
Or, for pedantry’s sake, Robert “Choc” Thornton.
July 9, 2021 at 17:33 #1549951Which Tyler was leader of The Pedants Revolt!
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I've walked and I crawled on six crooked highwaysJuly 9, 2021 at 17:50 #1549955TROY111 has a username which puts me in mind of Troy’s first three races as a 3yo.
From memory, he won the Classic Trial at Sandown Park narrowly from something like Two Of Diamonds, won the Predominate Stakes at Goodwood easily from Serge Lifar then won The Derby equally easily in the end on Epsom Downs.
Willie Carson was always worth interviewing – he had plenty of attitude in his prime.
His interview with Brough Scott after the 1989 Derby stands out.
“I set out to track Cacoethes because everyone kept telling me his good he is. Doesn’t look so good now, does he?”
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"July 9, 2021 at 18:06 #1549958I’m vegetarian. Neither.
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July 9, 2021 at 18:12 #1549959It’s all biased opinion
Doesn’t mean its not all wrong
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July 9, 2021 at 18:27 #1549963“I set out to track Cacoethes because everyone kept telling me his good he is. Doesn’t look so good now, does he?”
Indeed, and after winning the Guineas on the same horse when asked about the stamina doubts he said something like “Write down all the names of the people that think that on pieces of paper, put them in a top hat and afterwards pull them out one by one and say ‘Idiot’ ” – characteristic giggle/cackle didn’t feature.
(It’s only now I feel safe to admit to being one of those “idiots”)
July 9, 2021 at 18:42 #1549968Some people don’t like Willie Carson – and God knows why he was sympathising with Graham Bradley when the Panorama crew collared him – but I thought Carson was quality when interviewed in his own career.
I was fortunate enough to do a telephone interview with him for a feature in TODAY in 1995 – he was excellent to talk to.
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"July 9, 2021 at 18:58 #1549973He opened a Betting Shop on our estate and bought a round in the local pub. Cheers Willie!
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July 10, 2021 at 12:00 #1550120Ian, you got me thinking I remember willie on TV many years ago talking about Troy and stating he’ll win tomorrow, can’t remember the race but the next day I popped into bookies in Liverpool city center.
I got talking to a bloke and told him what willie said and he also backed Troy, won a fair bit as I had singles doubles going.
I heard willie, was told not to disclose too much info to the media.
And then leads me to another occasion riding April Bouquet in the Rose Bowl at Haydock for the Major, the stalls opened and he held him back, missed the break as Racing Post tell us, during the race he kept him boxed in.
Well I was on for the Britannia at Royal Ascot got 7/1 and the rest is history.
The days of Jockeys like Willie are gone apart from a few, I’m referring to the top Jockeys doing low weights.
And the piece with Nick Luck a few weeks ago was excellent, get back on the media Willie your audience awaits.
Ian, once again thanks for bringing back memories.
July 10, 2021 at 12:52 #1550134You’re welcome.
A lot of people in the media didn’t like Carson – he was abrupt, acerbic, didn’t suffer fools gladly and it was even once said he didn’t even have much to do with his own children, considering them good-for-nothings who just sponged off him.
But whether that gossip is true or not, he was popular with punters.
He had a busy style, arms often pumping from some way out whether going well or not and if you backed a Carson ride you usually felt, win or lose, he’d given it every chance.
And he was outspoken – he basically trashed Cacoethes live on air after The Derby, Brough Scott was embarrassed but Carson didn’t care.
He was similarly adamant Gorytus had been got at prior to the 1982 Dewhurst.
In terms of being “out there” and not caring who he upset, Carson was ahead of his time.
He was a curious contrast with Dick Hern, chalk and cheese, but it worked a treat, never more so than when they plotted a famous tactical QEII victory on Bahri in 1995.
I found Carson hard work initially on the phone, but I think I asked him the right sort of challenging questions giving him a chance to talk in depth about past and present horses he’d ridden.
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"July 10, 2021 at 13:09 #1550140Willie Carson, together with Steve Cauthen, were the two jockeys I liked most when I first started betting. In an interview with Nick Luck on RTV recently, Carson said Cauthen was the strongest jockey he ever rode against.
Sorry to be pedantic but Bahri was trained by John Dunlop, not by Major Hern!
July 10, 2021 at 13:14 #1550144Oh my goodness, you’re right!
I plead advancing years and a faulty memory!
I think I heard Carson got the tactic from Hern, though, who told him if you race under the trees on the old mile after rain you can find a quicker strip of ground.
It was for sure an epic ride.
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