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Another gravy-trainer not prepared to rock the boat.
"The stigmatic stench attached to steroids in sport in this country is very real, but if you walk into a betting shop in Britain, any punter will tell you that the biggest crime is stopping a horse.
The non-trier remains the single most heinous act that can be carried out on a racecourse, and arguably does more to drive punters to other sports than any drug scandals related to horses or jockeys."
Is he having a laugh? And has he actually been inside a bookies recently?
Betting shops are as quiet as libraries these days save for the old men dozing at tables and a few kids in hoods on the fobt terminals. Stopping is regarded by the few remaining horse backers as the most heinous crime, McGrath is correct. If every horse was doped to the back teeth and every horse was trying, backers would flood back. It’s an absolute joke, do the authorities believe that the public will keep on parting with cash when so many races are won by unconsidered, low rated runners with poor recent and historical form and don’t tell me that you have not been subject to many shock results because I will tell you that you are lying.
You are missing the point here. What I don’t like about the article is that he insinuates that doping is somehow O.K.?
If you backed Camelot in last year’s Leger, or any horse that finished behind Certify, you are just as entitled to feel aggrieved as you are if you backed a horse that got stopped.
And my guess is doping is far more widely-spread than stopping horses, which is likely to quickly come under the intense glare of the authorities. Unlike doping, which is quickly brushed under the carpet so the main players, who pump money into the game, can carry on with their wicked practice.
Cheating is cheating however it comes about.
I’m not sure anyting is being brushed under the carpet EGS. Private trainer to the biggest owner in the sport brought to book and a host of Newmarket trainers facing a very anxious time of it while investigations take place. What makes you say it is being brushed under the carpet?
Agree though that J McG presumably didn’t back Camelot.
I wish racing was straight with no stopping and no steroids but it would come as a great shock to see the authorities putting the boot into those who are driving backers away. They are standing idly by as the sport become a laughing stock.
Racing is straighter now than ever.
Mandatory out-of-racing drug-testing, every race filmed, every bet having an electronic paper-trail, every betting account easily accessible by bookmakers and exchanges, all this information shared with the BHA’s integrity and licensing department.
Go back 30, 40, 50 years or more and God only knows what was going on! Not even a basic accounting trail was necessary for bookmakers. Every bet was struck in near-anonymity and virtually every race was run unwatched except by non-professional stewards.
Mr McGrath knows this full well. His fawning, feeble-minded apology-by-proxy for Godolphin shows exactly why he should have no place writing in a national newspaper. Of course he fails to name any of these non-triers who are supposedly driving punters away (they’re not) as that would involve some criticism of these imaginary people concerned.
Absolute gravy-trainer of the highest order!
Mike
I’m not sure anyting is being brushed under the carpet EGS. Private trainer to the biggest owner in the sport brought to book and a host of Newmarket trainers facing a very anxious time of it while investigations take place. What makes you say it is being brushed under the carpet?
Agree though that J McG presumably didn’t back Camelot.
Newbury on saturday springs to mind.
I just watched the Coral eclipse where Nataniel beat Farhh.Farhh actually ran a blinder and would have won with a clear run.
Incidentally does nobody smell a rat with Telescope. Since his mate Greatwood,ran a stinker in the Derby trial(Dante) the owner,Highhclere now wants Telescope to represent him in the Derby.Everyone looks on in awh!(shucks) at the amazing recovery of Telescope.
Hi Micky Stoute does your mother know you’re out? We are all watching through the telescope.
Incidentally does nobody smell a rat with Telescope. Since his mate Greatwood,ran a stinker in the Derby trial(Dante) the owner,Highhclere now wants Telescope to represent him in the Derby.Everyone looks on in awh!(shucks) at the amazing recovery of Telescope.
I thought that myself! It seems remarkable that a horse can be pulled out of a big race, then a couple of days later its trouncing it’s stablemate by 30 lengths with a dazzling gallop that brings back memories of Nashwan before he won his Guineas! These days in the racing world noone seems to even bat an eyelid!
What it smacks of is that they’re trying to get a better price for the Derby. They knew they could only get around evs/6-4 at best for the Dante, and if he had scooted up in that (given how poor the race ended up looking I imagine he might have won by at least 5 lengths, if he’s as good as they seem to think he is) his price would have collapsed for Epsom.
It seems to me they know they’ve got the bollox here, so maybe we should take the hint?
Pathetic words from McGrath who has become something of a sad joke all-round anyway
Other than that Betlarge has said it all, though with the likes of Mr Woolf on the forum I fear his first three paragraphs will be as worthwhile as micturating into an F5 tornado
Pi**ing into the wind is exactly what the remnants of what was the betting public are now doing. Even the undisputed doyens of mug punting have abandoned our local betting shop.
I’m reading this book on economics at the moment, it’s called imaginatively enough "Economics for dummies" although it my case there really should be a book "Economics for superdummies"
In one chapter they talk about "Asymmetric information"
"Asymmetric information is very important in the real world because it limits exchange in a market. If you know that the other person is better informed, you’re afraid that he may use his information to take advantage of you. Similarly, if you cannot expect their honest in the deal, you will be less likely to make one.
"So keep in mind that asymmetric information can lead to market failure-and in the worst cases completely collapse markets as bad goods drive out good.
In these cases, no market can exist because people have been scared off by the fact that other market participants are better informed and have the means to use that against them"
No words could better describe betting on the gee-gees
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