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  • #20442
    stilvi
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    It goes without saying that the key here is to find something with a touch of class that is likely to have this race as its preferred option.

    At this early stage the two that fit the bill for me are Sir Des Champs and Invictus.

    Sir Des Champs could be very good and he is almost certainly too good to be looking at handicap options. He looks to have more pace than the other Gigginstown staying novices and given that it seems unlikely he will take on Peddlers Cross and co it would appear the Jewson is by far the most likely option. The general 12/1 looks reasonable so the 16/1 with VC looks pretty generous.

    Must admit I thought Invictus looked a shocking buy for much of last season but he looked a potential top notcher at Plumpton earlier this week. It literally looked as if he had joined in running to the last. Given the £60,000 bonus all roads hopefully will lead to Cheltenham and again he looks better than a handicapper. Alan King needed another star and this could be it. Again with many of those heading the market likely to go elsewhere 16/1 looks pretty fair value.

    #381694
    JJMSports
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    Sir Des Champs also tipped up by Paul Kealy in todays Racing Post.

    #381704
    Zarkava
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    Just watched both of Invictus’ chase starts & I agree that he’s mighty impressive, but the Jewson? Never run over a trip shorter than 2m 4f (just about scraped home over that trip over hurdles on his 5th start), showed signs of quirkiness on his 2nd start over hurdles when he had the race won, debuted in a PTP over 3 miles, by Flemensfirth, Walkon already likely to be the Alan King horse for the Jewson and the Jewson could be a very hot race too with lots of pacey types, many of whom have run good races in 2m races at Cheltenham. The Jewson isn’t exactly my favourite race and you never really know at this stage what’s going for what, an ante-post nightmare.

    I wonder though if you could get 20/1 for the R&SA, because that would interest me slightly.

    #381742
    stilvi
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    I think Invictus looks a different horse over fences. He obviously hasn’t got the hurdles form of Walkon but I suspect he has already improved past him over fences. I wouldn’t be concerned about the trip and the 3 mile point to point run might be something of a red herring as it is with many horses from that sphere.

    #381850
    WelshWizard1973
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    Walkon was class over hurdles and I believe, if he still retains the same ability consistently over fences, he’ll be there or thereabouts turning in come next March.

    Really good display on his debut over fences last Friday at Exeter and it will be interesting to see if he can follow it up next time out, probably in the "Dipper" on New Years Day @ Cheltenham.

    #381918
    stilvi
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    Walkon was class over hurdles and I believe, if he still retains the same ability consistently over fences, he’ll be there or thereabouts turning in come next March.

    Really good display on his debut over fences last Friday at Exeter and it will be interesting to see if he can follow it up next time out, probably in the "Dipper" on New Years Day @ Cheltenham.

    The Dipper was the race suggested for Invictus. I can’t imagine they will both run there.

    #382413
    WelshWizard1973
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    Alan King said the "Dipper" next for Walkon in last weeks Weekender but we’ll soon find out! :lol:

    #385248
    stilvi
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    Well, I got the bit about the Dipper correct. Seriously, that wasn’t good enough from Invictus. Even allowing for the fact he raced too freely and jumped to the right his response to pressure was pretty disappointing. Perhaps that is just about the limit of his ability. Not the best two days for the King novice chasers.

    #385285
    Zarkava
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    Could get even worse if Kumbeshwar does nothing tomorrow.

    This is turning into a seriously horrible race if the market principles go for the races we expect them to.

    #385308
    Zarkava
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    Just watched a replay a few times & I think Solix looks like a cracking bet for the Jewson. A year younger than Champion Court and his first proper test over fences. Watch the first half of the race compared to the second and it’s like watching 2 different animals. Only his 5th start in the UK and giving away 3lbs to a horse who’s been on the go since September and already been involved in 2 proper races over fences, not to mention has plenty of experience at Cheltenham.

    Invictus’ jumping was all over the place, needs a miracle to get close to the front 2. Sonofvic’s jumping was too bad to be true and Saint Are would’ve finished behind CC based on their September running.

    Will Champion Court even go for the Jewson?

    Reckon the 16s about Solix is a decent bet.

    #385339
    Hurdygurdyman
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    Very disappointing from Invictus I thought he’d run much better. Martin Keighly wasn’t that enusiastic about his horses chance prior to the race other than to say he fancied him to run well. Solix ran a blinder but its very unlikely Barry will ride him in preference Mossley who was disappointing the other day but still finished 12 lengths in front of Champion Court.

    I thought the race really highlighted Champion Court as a horse with a big future in staying chases over a longer trip.

    He’s won this which is probably not his best trip so if you can’t beat him round Cheltenham you won’t be winning any Jewson’s IMO

    Champion Court has been trained with the RSA in mind since the start of the season I doubt if they will change their minds even if it does mean taking on Grand Crus.

    I could see Bog Warrior going for the Jewson if Peddlers is really going to have another crack at Sprinter Sacre along with Cue Card and at 12/1 he’d be some bet to lay as he could set of at 2/1 on the day if the front 5 don’t run and it’s looking more and more like that every day.

    #385407
    gerryke
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    was a bit disappointed with sir des champs over the xmas.he may well have won if knockfierna hadn’t ran out but it was in no way guaranteed.may be a better animal for better ground.not a whole pile has come out of the martin pipe from last yr.he may not have beaten much.his rep seems a bit large over fences too for what he has acheived

    #385420
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    Unless I missed something Peddlers Cross is being aimed here now. Wouldn’t be surprised if Al Ferof showed up here too. They’ll be chasing place money in the arkle.

    #385863
    Hurdygurdyman
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    Rumours going around Mossley has had a set back. There going to be no runners left soon.

    I really hope Bog Warrior comes across for this I think he’d pi$$ up against what’s likely to be left.

    #386674
    TomBarkley87
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    I think everyone has been far too put off by Sir Des Champs. He may not have been entirely convincing last time out, but he’s still a proven classy animal. He’s shown he can win around Cheltenham and he’s still my tip for this one.

    @TheTomBarkley87

    #386697
    GDC
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    There is NO way Al Ferof or Peddlers Cross will end up in this race!! Peddlers will stay in the Arkle and Al Ferof will head for the QMCC or the Arkle :D

    This race does however offer some value as the head of the market we see 5 or so runners that will not run! Finding the value is tricky but it is worth backing a couple at decent prices that are deffo going to run 8)

    #386704
    thehorsesmouth
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    Whatever Sir Des Champs runs in, I believe he’ll win handsomely. This is surely the most likely option as opposed to the RSA, but you never know with Willie Mullins!

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