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Japanese horses barred again from Melbourne Cup

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  • #12037
    wit
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    Although Japan has just been declared free for one year of the Equine Influenza identified in August 2007

    http://japanracing.jp/_news2009/090709.html

    the SCMP reports that the Australian quarantine department is not going to have its new protocols in place until early 2010, so again no Japanese horses this year at the Melbourne Cup.

    Last time the Japanese showed in 2006, they won it with Delta Blues with stablemate Pop Rock second.

    #239049
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    The ozzies dont want too get a kicking in their major race, cowardly convicts… lol

    #239051
    wit
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    seems Bart Cummings was unhappy even last year: excerpts from Herald Sun:

    http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sport/ … 88,00.html

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    Growing grumpier by the year as more raiders target our greatest race, Cummings yesterday summed up his frustration with the quip: "Spot the Aussie."

    A record nine internationals could contest Tuesday’s $5.5 million Emirates Melbourne Cup. The record is eight runners in the 2002 Cup won by Media Puzzle.

    There are fears that this year’s foreign contingent is capable of dominating the race, just as Japanese horses Delta Blues and Pop Rock did at Flemington in 2006.

    …Cummings yesterday raised the bar for the internationals, calling for a cap on their numbers.

    "The Japanese have got a good idea (for the Japan Cup). They choose the best Group 1 winners and invite them from around the world and have four or five runners only," Cummings said.

    Cummings argued loyal Australian owners were paying the price.

    "You can’t win the Cup unless you’re in it and it is getting harder for the Australians who support the industry throughout the year to get their lower-weighted horses into the race," he said……

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    to be fair though:

    "Victoria Racing Club chief executive Dale Monteith said connections of internationals were taking a big gamble.

    "They pay their own way and it costs them about $100,000 a horse," Monteith said. "The Melbourne Cup has never been an invitation race and it never will be.

    "The race is open to all-comers, which is why it is recognised as one of the world’s great handicap races. Before Vintage Crop we used to get 200,000 people to Flemington for the carnival, but that’s increased to over 400,000 over the past 15 years."

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    The ozzies dont want too get a kicking in their major race, cowardly convicts… lol

    It’s not exactly rational thinking, but I think it swayed their decision!

    Bart Cummings is a senile brat and needs a muzzle – his comments are detrimental to the international exposure of the Melbourne Cup.

    #239069
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    Gee you poms have a huge chip on your shoulder–12000km away from Australia and you are able to give such an objective view of Australian racing.

    The decision to enforce Australia’s strict quarantine regulations was made by the Federal authorities, separate from the racing authorities. Never having had EI here prior to last year, racing here, in particular NSW, was decimated by the outbreak. Quarantine has a responsibility to protect the whole of the equine industry Australia wide and if that requires a cautionary response, then so be it. They did not, nor did they have an obligation to, consult Bart Cummings or anyone else involved in racing at any time. Just hope they don’t prevent the Europeans from coming–sure fire way of making a killing by laying them on Betfair.

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    Take it you were laying Vintage Crop and Media Puzzle then? :D

    #239095
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    Actually I backed both as well as delta Blues–I suppose I should change that to laying the English horses

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    Gee you poms have a huge chip on your shoulder–12000km away from Australia and you are able to give such an objective view of Australian racing.

    The decision to enforce Australia’s strict quarantine regulations was made by the Federal authorities, separate from the racing authorities. Never having had EI here prior to last year, racing here, in particular NSW, was decimated by the outbreak. Quarantine has a responsibility to protect the whole of the equine industry Australia wide and if that requires a cautionary response, then so be it. They did not, nor did they have an obligation to, consult Bart Cummings or anyone else involved in racing at any time.

    Just hope they don’t prevent the Europeans from coming–sure fire way of making a killing by laying them on Betfair.

    We feel the same way about laying Aussies in the July Cup.

    ‘Superstar’ Scenic Blast couldn’t even beat a girl!! :wink:

    #239100
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    At least, unlike the over-rated English hacks he was able to win a G1 race, and the horse he flogged at Ascot went alright at Newmarket

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    At least, unlike the over-rated English hacks he was able to win a G1 race, and the horse he flogged at Ascot went alright at Newmarket

    Somebody is conveniently forgetting All The Good and Taufan’s Melody :wink:

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    Gee, we are a classless lot aren’t we? :lol:

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    Gee, we are a classless lot aren’t we? :lol:

    Apart from

    Dame

    Edna Everage and

    Sir

    Les Patterson, of course. :wink:

    Gambling Only Pays When You're Winning

    #239150
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    That burned deep, H. :oops: :wink:

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    At least, unlike the over-rated English hacks he was able to win a G1 race, and the horse he flogged at Ascot went alright at Newmarket

    Somebody is conveniently forgetting All The Good and Taufan’s Melody :wink:

    Wow, 2 winners from a huge number–a real good strike rate

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    At least, unlike the over-rated English hacks he was able to win a G1 race, and the horse he flogged at Ascot went alright at Newmarket

    Somebody is conveniently forgetting All The Good and Taufan’s Melody :wink:

    Wow, 2 winners from a huge number–a real good strike rate

    Two winners from 4 or 5 runners in WFA races I believe that is BGM.

    You should start to compare like with like ie. WFA races with WFA races rather than Handicap with WFA.

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    At least, unlike the over-rated English hacks he was able to win a G1 race, and the horse he flogged at Ascot went alright at Newmarket

    Somebody is conveniently forgetting All The Good and Taufan’s Melody :wink:

    Wow, 2 winners from a huge number–a real good strike rate

    Two winners from 4 or 5 runners in WFA races I believe that is BGM.

    You should start to compare like with like ie. WFA races with WFA races rather than Handicap with WFA.

    Can’t recall any English visitors winning too many WFA races–the Caufield Cup, which All The Good and Taufan’s Melody won, and the Melbourne Cup are both handicaps. On the other hand, Aussie horses have won 4 out of the last 6 or 7 King Stand Stakes.

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    I remember Fantastic Love being sent down there to run in the Cup and just failed to make it into the field, so they stuck it in a group 2 instead and won it.

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