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  • #1704948
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    A lengthy ban coming up, I would have thought. Eased up on an odds on chance and done on the line. £9,805 matched at 1.01.

    I know Windsor is awkward with the bend just after the finishing line and horses can hang to the left – but he was a neck in front just strides from the line and clearly stops riding.

    #1704950
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    Looked very bad with his horses also drifting to its left. The owners won’t be too happy about that.

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    Not the best day for Roger Varian. Lost a race he should have won and has had all the Obaid horses taken away. :-(

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    No ban. What an absolute joke racing has become.

    Before the inevitable question: I did not have a bet in the race.

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    It was clear cut the horse didn’t win because the jockey didn’t ride out. Like has happened here, most stewards aren’t fit for purpose and another example why there should be professional, centralised stewarding.

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    It also wasn’t good when Matt Chapman and the other presenters kept on referring to the jockey as “The Doyler”.

    Most observers think he has failed to ride out and cost punters money. It doesn’t help when racing then comes across as some chummy little clique, where presenters are not objectively critical.

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    That is a shocker!!

    I watched it live and fully expected a long ban. How could he tell the horse was spooked by the winning line twenty yards out.

    If I ever get into trouble I want “the Doyler” as my lawyer.

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    The “explanation” and the visual evidence.

    https://x.com/AtTheRaces/status/1825595882210996490

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    The Stewards Report:

    “James Doyle, the rider of No Retreat, placed second, appeared to stop riding shortly before the winning post. After being interviewed and shown recordings of the incident, Doyle’s explanation that No Retreat jinked in the final strides on the run to the line, causing both itself and Doyle to become unbalanced, requiring him to get a hold of the horse’s head, was noted.”

    Stewards:

    Sophie Candy (Chief Steward)
    Georgina Cartwright (Chair)
    Cody Watkins (Steward)
    Kelly O’Boyle (Assistant Steward)
    Josie Brown Smith (Raceday Assistant)

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    “Appeared to stop riding” no he stopped riding. I can’t see the horse jinked he just stopped riding it out to the line.

    The more I know the less I understand.

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    He stopped riding and as a result the horse veered to it’s left. Had Doyle ridden him out properly the horse would have kept a straight line and also won the race.

    Probably Doyle is just too big a name nowadays to be kept on the sidelines for 21 days or so.

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    Looking at the stewards report again, they don’t appear to have merely “noted” Doyle’s self serving explanation. They appear to have uncritically accepted it.

    There is nothing the stewards could have done to help the punters. But they have failed in their duty to uphold the rules.

    I don’t know if it is possible for the BHA to overturn the stewards decision but if it can it should. Their decision is perverse.

    “Probably Doyle is just too big a name nowadays to be kept on the sidelines for 21 days or so.”

    That is certainly how it looks, no matter how much the BHA may say otherwise. Would a 7lb claimer have got away with that ride? Would the stewards have believed such a cock and bull story?

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    Yet there are some who still act like it’s a complete mystery as to why people aren’t betting on racing any more.

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    For one of our top flight jockeys he should hold his hands up because from side and head ons he stopped riding for no obvious visual reason.

    The more I know the less I understand.

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    “There are some who still act like it’s a complete mystery as to why people aren’t betting on racing any more.”

    100%. Why bother with it when the participants and the stewards treat punters with such total contempt? There are plenty of other sports to bet on.

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    A storm in a Windsor teacup IMHO
    Doyle’s mount almost looked legless

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