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If Luke says a horse has “hosed up” just once more, I’ll hose him up, once I find out what it means.
On balance an improvement on C4 and the documentary pieces have been excellent, although there do seem to be too many presenters with a not a lot to do.
Interviews with winning Trainers/Jockeys will nearly always be banal but it’s not just a racing problem, it’s the same with all sports.
If Luke says a horse has “hosed up” just once more, I’ll hose him up, once I find out what it means.
Luke Harvey gets on my tits. There is more sense in a battered Gym Shoe.
He didn’t half waffle on about Brain Power and what big ears he had in the Champion Hurdle build up. He seemed to more or less tip the Henderson horse on the basis of those “great big ears”
In the end it turned out the horse would have needed Dumbo sized ears and took to the air to try to fly after the field.
Big Ears, Big Ears…..well Luke is the Noddy in this team.
Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.
I really am blowing between warm and cold over this. I’ve only been able to watch Tuesday’s and Thursday’s coverage because of work commitments, and will miss D-Day (tomorrow), which will be the crunch for viewer figures. I thought Tuesday worked in terms of the balance between great racing, good features and interesting interviews/post-race discussion, and was aided by the buzz that is Day 1 of The Festival. Today had great racing. The AP-Martin Pipe feature continues to be insightful on multiple levels, and the camera down at the start with Mick Fitz is offering much more than the C4 equivalent (with Alice or Richi), especially when UDS took a chunk out of the birch, to show exactly where his mind was … but … the coverage lacked the buzz that was being talked about. I’m finding the focus on podium ‘yack’ over horses in paddock/parade for the feature races an increasing issue, whilst features on the state of the current weather do nothing for me. Not for the first time, I thought today that a missed opportunity for a general sporting audience was a feature on post-race doping control.
The trouble with the podium ‘yack’ (over multiple days) is that increasingly it’s oscillating between the bland, wooden and boringly repetitive (Harvey/Chamberlin) aimed at a general audience of footie fans (and reduced to phrases like ‘half-time’ and the score between Ireland and Britain), and in-crowd ‘boyz banter’ between jockeys, which is inevitably what happens when AP and RW start talking. There have been glimmers where something more incisive has appeared for horse racing fans, but this is entirely by chance – e.g. AP asking WPM re UDS and the King George. But, this is occurring only when AP takes the initiative. The same thing happened with the discussion with JP on Day 1. What this is pointing to, I think, is difficulties with the anchor role. I can see why some on here have an aversion to Nick Luck, but to do this role well requires a level of knowledge (and with that confidence) that I think EC still lacks.
Agree about the podium ‘Yack’ Titus, it’s like they suddenly take a look behind and remind themselves there are horses parading in the paddock that WE WANT TO SEE.
They won’t get away with that at the flat meetings, those horses will be out of the paddock and down at the start before they’ve glanced at their notes.On The Morning Show I wish Luke Harvey would stop answering questions which Oli Bell addresses to the guest on the show, twice he’s butted in with ‘his opinion’ once with Nicky Henderson and this morning with Paul Nichols. Very excitable and his tips are worse than Tommo’s
.Hope the team is going to change a little for the flat season, don’t think it appropriate that we have Luke Harvey, AP and Mick Fitz all NH jockeys. Would like to see Hayley Turner replace Mr. Harvey in the studio if she hasn’t been tempted back by the weight allowance for lady jockeys.
Things turn out best for those who make the best of how things turn out...Luke Harvey – Very excitable and his tips are worse than Tommo’s
I taught him well Jac………
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Ed C always seems edgy and keen to prioritise what’s coming through his earpiece. I know the running order is important as to who gets cut to and when, but they ought to give Chamberlin more scope to take a decision about staying with an interesting discussion if he chooses to. It would probably help him if his colleagues could hit their cues smoothly – Matt seems to miss almost every one.
Fitzy’s gig at the start is working well as Titus says: the other jocks seem glad of having something down there to break the tension.
I suspect Matt will be dropped sooner or later. He’s a nice fella but just cannot fit in a team because he wants to be the star, and that’s not something he can tamp down or control; it’s a facet of his personality. The daft close ups of the tiny screen used by Star bookmakers are utterly pointless; nobody can see what’s on the screen.
All in all, they seem a bunch of individuals who are not that well drilled to work together and there’s little sense of them being a team in the way the CH4 folk were.
For me there isn’t a big difference between ITV’s coverage and what C4 were doing. Luke Harvey has taken on the Francome role of telling us what a “great ride” every winning jockey gave his mount and Alice Plunkett continues to tell interviewees how wonderful they are before asking a question.
Siting the booth where it is and banning journos from scrumming round has helped produce more relaxed interviews. Ed seems to be growing into the role but Chapman isn’t which is a shame as I enjoy watching him on ATR.
The Pipe and McNamara features have been good and it’s been good to see Brough Scott although he hasn’t been used enough. Get rid of some of the dodgy camera angles (we want to see every horse jumping).
Finally Hoiles is good but he ain’t no Holt.
Ps, why have STV gone to the trouble of creating their own opening credits when the Racing is on ITV1?
Yesterday afternoon, Lucy Verasamy was adamant that there’d be rain overnight and that today would be wet and blustery. This morning, she says there’s a 40% chance of a light shower by the last race. Now you can’t blame Lucy personally- she’s only relaying the data given to her by the Met Office- but it does raise the broader question of why there’s a weather slot in the programme in the first place.
I watched the first couple of races on tuesday, but had to switch over. Only turned back a couple of times when RUK were showing some other meeting. Really miss Jim McGrath and Graham Cunningham. ITV’s form analysis is pxxx poor, they just haven’t got anyone to do the job. Brough Scott, Luke Harvey, A P Mccoy… Only good analysis comes from Richard Hoiles and he’s in the commentator’s spot.
They’ve had enough time now to get it right. ITV’s coverage is fine if watching for the sport or horses.
If seriously interested in punting it’s next to useless.
Value Is EverythingIs it that way deliberately though ginge…?
McGrath and Cunningham use to over analysis things for a causal viewer which could be a turn off for themMatt Chapman today had turned into Big Mac with all his cheering with the crowd
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ITV’s coverage is fine if watching for the sport or horses.
I’d imagine such feedback would be music to the producers’ ears.
The programme isn’t aimed so much at the serious punter as at the casual viewer; besides, as has been mentioned previously in the thread, wouldn’t someone who takes their betting seriously form their own opinions instead of listening to the clichéd waffle spouted by the various talking heads on television?
ITV’s coverage is fine if watching for the sport or horses.
I’d imagine such feedback would be music to the producers’ ears.
The programme isn’t aimed so much at the serious punter as at the casual viewer; besides, as has been mentioned previously in the thread, wouldn’t someone who takes their betting seriously form their own opinions instead of listening to the clichéd waffle spouted by the various talking heads on television?
Yes, that’s the point. Suspect ITV are happy with their coverage; but for me it’s been dumbed down far too much.
Obviously have my own opinions on what I see, Gladiateur. just want to see it (the important stuff)… and have presenters speak my language. Then agree or disagree.
Can also do without presenters talking (and laughing) over themselves and guests. With my hearing it all comes out a blur.
Value Is EverythingDaily Mail having a go at itv claiming ratings are rubbish – but more bizarrely they are claiming Luke Harvey & Matt Chapman don’t get on and had to be held apart after confrontation after the death of Many Clouds.
Thy have denied any such confrontation took place.
The Daily Mail are really stirring over itv’s coverage.
Tuesday coverage:
12:30: ITV Lunchtime News – 668k (12.9%)
13:00: ITV Racing Live: Cheltenham – 734k (12.9%)
16:30: Celebrity Home Secrets – 689k (8.5%)
17:00: The Chase – 2.71m (23.6%)Wednesday coverage:
12:30: ITV Lunchtime News – 681k (11.1%)
13:00: ITV Racing Live: Cheltenham – 799k (12.1%) up 126,000 on last year
16:30: Celebrity Home Secrets – 790k (8.5%)
17:00: The Chase – 2.97m (23.5%)12:30: ITV Lunchtime News – 681k (11.1%)
13:00: ITV Racing Live: Cheltenham – 799k (12.1%)
16:30: Celebrity Home Secrets – 790k (8.5%)
17:00: The Chase – 2.97m (23.5%)That’s not bad considering a lot of people will be at work.
There is also a difference in the live audience at the venue between Cheltenham and The ChaseMy one headache this week was having the main race bang on the school run. 4pm would be perfect
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12:30: ITV Lunchtime News – 681k (11.1%)
13:00: ITV Racing Live: Cheltenham – 799k (12.1%)
16:30: Celebrity Home Secrets – 790k (8.5%)
17:00: The Chase – 2.97m (23.5%)That’s not bad considering a lot of people will be at work.
There is also a difference in the live audience at the venue between Cheltenham and The ChaseMy one headache this week was having the main race bang on the school run. 4pm would be perfect
These are overnights so they could increase slightly, the school run is not the same everywhere around here children finish at 2.30pm
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