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The front two were a distance clear, Itsmyboy was clearly going to finish third, but why then was he hitting the horse extremely hard when his chance of winning was well and truly gone. I know his horse was a reluctant partner but there was no need to dish out those severe cracks just because he was angry with his partner. When you have a chance to win by all means give your horse a few cracks, but not out of frustration and anger which Murphy did, a beaten horse been beaten looks very unsavoury, the stewards should take the appropriate action and ban the said jockey,.
Is this not the same jockey that got banned for not trying hard enough….surely that how you;d like all horses to be ridden….just to make sure you get your 2 quids worth.
Precisely, Underscore, and the mere fact that Marz felt the need to dub the jockey as "Nasty Timmy" in the thread title is probably best taken as a tacit admission of wanton Murphy-bashing from where I’m sitting.
I’m a stronger advocate of sympathetic horsemanship without any recourse to the whip than many on here, but Itsmyboy is an ignorant, lazy creature frequently in need of aggressive handling – including to the line – from some way out.
If there was any thought in Murphy’s mind that the gelding would start to d*ck around if left to be ridden hands and heels late on, then he’d have kept after him. He must have here, so he did.
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Is this not the same jockey that got banned for not trying hard enough….surely that how you;d like all horses to be ridden….just to make sure you get your 2 quids worth.
Been a little cynical, underscore, obviously you didn’t see the head on, if you get a chance, then come back to me. This was clearly a frustrated jockey punishing a horse. With Timmy’s past history it really doesn’t surprise me. A lot of this goes on behind closed stable doors but not in front of the public eye, how nothing was said about it defies belief.
Has anyone seen the Pipe ‘Trainer file’ on ATR?
Scene is; loads of horses and lads walking around the yard, all smiling and wearing the red Bathwick jackets. Then Timmy walks by, in green, looking as if a bird has just shat on him.
Only surprise was his teeth weren’t hanging off the horses ear.What a shame. There’s a difference between making the horse go with forceful riding and then marking the horse… I actually never seen it so not in a position to judge but if he’s marked the horse then that’s not nice.
I always thought of Timmy as a decent rider too but guess not is all as it seems!
Precisely, Underscore, and the mere fact that Marz felt the need to dub the jockey as "Nasty Timmy" in the thread title is probably best taken as a tacit admission of wanton Murphy-bashing from where I’m sitting.
I’m a stronger advocate of sympathetic horsemanship without any recourse to the whip than many on here, but Itsmyboy is an ignorant, lazy creature frequently in need of aggressive handling – including to the line – from some way out.
If there was any thought in Murphy’s mind that the gelding would start to d*ck around if left to be ridden hands and heels late on, then he’d have kept after him. He must have here, so he did.
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Have a look at the head on Jeremy, which will surely make your comments look foolish. The Jockey got a ban for marking the horse aswell.
The head-on did look pretty bad, TM seemed to be just flailing away at the horse with absolutely no chance of catching the 2 in front or being caught by the one behind. I did wonder at the time whether he’d pick up a ban.
it did look bad and they looked serious hard hits that seemed to have no purpose
i wonder what the owner/trainer thinks ?
Haven’t seen the head on yet but someone rang me about it to say how bad it looks. Isn’t this the sort of stuff the Timmy of old used to get up to, beating his horses up to take out his own frustrations at not being able to challenge. He and the Pipe team in general are having a pretty bad time of things at the meeting.
racing cannot afford to have jockeys who visibly punish horses and if it is clear a jockey has done this they must have a lengthy ban to deter them from doing it again
whatever one thinks of the campaign to see the whip done away with, which i am not sure i agree with, there are plenty of people out there who would willingly start or jump on a campaign to see horse racing done away with – racing shouldn’t encourage them
of course, it would be different if us paying punters were allowed to whip a jockey at the end of the race if we think he didnt do well enough …. hmm, now there’s an idea ….
To me there’s a difference between not trying on a horse from the outset and subconsciously dropping your hands in the final furlong.
There’s absolutely no correlation between Murphy’s ban last week and his butchery today.
I have been in Timmy Murphys company intermittently over the years as a best pal of mine was in the racing school with him, and they ended up the best of pals. timmy went on to be a successful jockey where as my mate is now packing food for a frozen food company. Timmy lived about five miles from where I live, so this is not a vendetta on Timmy Murphy but he has no excuses today, absolute pure butchery.
This thread is so predictable. The same old suspects putting up an opposite view and looking extremely foolish and pompous. The ban speaks for itself.
The ban speaks for itself.
No it doesn’t. That would mean we have to accept that the authorities always get it right. We can be pretty sure that they don’t.
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