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.. I’m sick of hearing about Isrealis killing unarmed civilians, nothing will ever be done to make them act like a civilised country though, just the way it is.
Usual lazy/thick left wing drivel whenever these matters arise
Wallace. Do ever start threads on any other international issues.? What is it about the jewish state that attracts your attention in a way that the mass killings in Sudan and Sri lanka do not?
It’s time for Palestine to invade Israel, this time with the help of the rest of the world…
Like before? 67? Bring it on… They will be slaughtered. if you had a clue about what is going on there, you would know that Palestinians are a long way from being united.
Absolutely isgusting to see on TV that the various Israeli spokespeople were actually defending their action because the aid workers attacked them!!!! Complete joke.
Add bigoted to lazy and thick…
Apart from obviously not even looking at the basics of the story, you have not got a clue as to what happened and how.
Israel have cocked this up by sending in the heavy guns to deal with a tricky issue. but their prioirity has to be to protect their own people and that means prventing as many arms reaching the nazi worshipping hamas as possible. After that they should get things settled in palestine. Hamas are near enough impossible to negotiate with given their stated desire to eradicate jews full stop, but there has to be a way forward and it probably needs a new israeli administration to get there.
Pity about the deaths, but Israel has a perfect right to protect herself against possible terrorist activity (ie the import of weapons into Gaza). Simple as that; whichever side you’re on.
It really is laughable to hear people ranting on about the evil Israeli’s killing innocents yet those same peace lovers never condemn the lovable, cuddly, friendly wouldn’t-harm-a-fly, peace-to-all-mankind Hamas for their attacks. That violence would seem to be acceptable. Hypocrisy is alive and well.Israel is the most paranoid state on Earth. They are a law unto themselves. Of course, like all countries, they have a right to protect themselves, but when they flagrantly violate international law by killing aid workers, then they have severely over stepped the mark.
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Don’t be so naive as to think that by labelling someone as an "aid-worker" they become incapable of violence.
By the way all you Israel haters, can I get your opinion, perhaps even condemnation of Turkey for its persecution of the Kurds? I’m sure you must have seethed with rage over this, but I can’t remember too many posts on here over it. Perhaps I missed them. Or perhaps you can’t find it in yourself to hate anyone but the Israelis. Maybe theGuardian
doesn’t write articles about kurds.
Don’t be so naive as to think that by labelling someone as an "aid-worker" they become incapable of violence.
By the way all you Israel haters, can I get your opinion, perhaps even condemnation of Turkey for its persecution of the Kurds? I’m sure you must have seethed with rage over this, but I can’t remember too many posts on here over it. Perhaps I missed them. Or perhaps you can’t find it in yourself to hate anyone but the Israelis. Maybe theGuardian
doesn’t write articles about kurds.
I still want the Chinese out of Tibet. Atrocious behavior.
Facts:
124 Israeli children have been killed by Palestinians and 1,441 Palestinian children have been killed by Israelis since September 29, 2000
1,072 Israelis and at least 6,348 Palestinians have been killed since September 29, 2000
8,864 Israelis and 39,019 Palestinians have been injured since September 29, 2000
During Fiscal Year 2009, the U.S. is providing Israel with at least $7.0 million per day in military aid and $0 in military aid to the Palestinians.
1 Israeli is being held prisoner by Palestinians, while 7,383 Palestinians are currently imprisoned by Israel
0 Israeli homes have been demolished by Palestinians and 24,145 Palestinian homes have been demolished by Israel since 1967
The Israeli unemployment rate is 6.1%, while the Palestinian unemployment in the West Bank is 16.3% and 41.3% in Gaza.
Israel currently has 223 Jewish-only settlements and ‘outposts’ built on confiscated Palestinian land. Palestinians do not have any settlements on Israeli land.
This is why i have a problem with Israel…Complete illegal Blockade of a Country for their own Security. Of Course they have the right to protect themselves and can do so but lets not fool ourselves. Israel want no solution…they don’t care about the 1.5 Million in a concentration camp who cant leave their country. This is a issue that has to be resolved.
Israel are isolated in the Middle East. Their closest Allies Turkey have denounced them and Egypt their closest Arab Allies have reopened borders with Gaza.
Not only are the Right Wing Israel Goverment breach International Law but their also stupid. Look at what they have done. They have united a volatile Arab world against them in one go.
Why did the Israel not open talks with Fatah when they had a chance. They have got exactly what their attitude always was going to give.
I dont care about Sri Lanka etc….This is Israel a state the EU and the Irish Goverment as well as the Whole Western World Supports. As a citizen of both we have a right to challenge or Politicians on their support for a country that breaks International Law. They have illegally taken Irish Citizens in International Water.
No one is against the a Jewish State or a Israeli state. But this current Israeli Adminstration the far right of the Country is nothing but a disgrace.
Lebanon
Gaza
Now ThisAll in a few years?
Come On their complete Looneys
Also don’t tar us with the Hamas Lovers. Their a disgrace. Israel have the right to defend themselves but you can’t defeat Gurellia Armies(IRA ANYONE) by persecuting the people. You need to offer them a credible alternative. Israel needs to think down these lines for the good of the region. I sure many people in GAZA deplore their lifes and would do anything to have a decent life. This is what has to be done by Israel istead of turning everything into Missles/Guns/Bullets and Apache Helicopters.
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Insomniac is spot on. Whatever the tragdey of the 9 people killed in this inicdent (and i would concede it looks like a right blunder) there is a definate Ken livingstone whiff about the way that only actions by the jewish state seem to arouse interest by many people (european left mostly…but some on right too)
Kn livingstione invited, endorsed and even hugged this preacher in the UK
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HStliOnVl6Q
There is little doubt about his views on the jewish race
I dont care about Sri Lanka etc….This is Israel a state the EU and the Irish Goverment as well as the Whole Western World Supports
And Sri Lanka isnt supported?
has the western world broken off diplomatic relations and blocked trade?
After they murder 25000 of their own people in one attack?
Seeing as you like numbers, how does 25000 compare with your numbers?
Israel DID negotiate with Fatah. Have you ever heard of Oslo? They got just about everything they demanded and still walked away…
I would however concede that alienating turkey is as clumsy as this operation seems to have been
"Israel DID negotiate with Fatah. Have you ever heard of Oslo? They got just about everything they demanded and still walked away…"
But Sri Lanka. Maybe when they Abduct Irish Citizens in International water while proceeding to Murder 9 People i take notice.
Now the Activists are taking Israel to court in their own Country. You can’t make this stuff up.
Now their is another vessel going to Gaza include
Some of the people onboard the MV Rachel Corrie ship, which was part of the Freedom Flotilla but was not seized by Israeli troops after falling behind others in the fleet, have been named.
Gaza campaigner Ali Abunimah has named 11 of the passengers on his blog:
• Mairead Maguire, the 1976 Nobel Peace Prize laureate, from Belfast, Ireland
• Denis Halliday, Manhattan, NYC and Connemara, Ireland.
• Matthias Chang Wen Chieh, Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia
• MP Mohd Nizar bin Zakaria, a member of the Malaysian Parliament.
• Shamsul Akmar bin Musa Kamal 46, Selangor, Malaysia
• Mr. Shamsul Akmar bin Musa Kamal, Malaysian journalist
• Mohd Nizar bin Zakaria 41 , Perak, Malaysia
• Abdul Halim Bin Mohamed 29 , Selangor, Malaysia
• Abdul Halim, broadcast journalist for news and current affairs Malaysia TV3
• Mohd Jufri Bin Mohd Judin 33, Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia
• Mohd Jufri, cameraman for news and current affairs Malaysia TV3.
Irish Goverment has told Israeli to let it through…..Should be interesting when over the next few Hours what happens.
Also especially for you Clive…the ship is named after a young American activist who was Murdered when a Israeli Bulldozer ran over her and then proceeding to knock a Palestian Home to the Ground.
Irish Goverment has told Israeli to let it through…..Should be interesting when over the next few Hours what happens.
Oh that should do it….
I would suggest you look into oslo before commenting…
But Sri Lanka. Maybe when they Abduct Irish Citizens in International water while proceeding to Murder 9 People i take notice.
Are you really telling us that the only reason you bang on about Israel (and couldnt care less about Sudan/sri lanka etc) is because there might be some irish citizens in the vicinity?
Jesus….
Bang on about Israel
What is it with Right Wing Mentality
I been to Israel….i been to the U.S… Beautiful Countries with Beautiful People.
Their Government are not.
Clive we have seen you before clearly have no regard for Muslims. I do and all religions.
I am strong on this issue because i want it to be resolved.
I apolgise for having a opinion
Completely failed to answer the point….so thats thats then
No. I find it difficult to respect a cult which preaches hatred and endorses murder of those that have the "wrong" sexuality or dare renounce their beliefs.preaches hatred towards other religions and war against "non believers". Treats women like animals and hounds and terrorises anyone from any society that dares even mention the Mohammed and his nine year old bride> A religion that is largely against free speech and frequently against my right to vote and choose my goverment
I suppose i would have to blame my upbringing in the secular civilised world for not getting my kicks out of seeing gays hanged from cranes in public parks and females being circumcised
Whats your Point?
Oh Yes Sri Lanka…em what has this got to do with Israel. Oh yes you wanted to Compare Sri Lanka because i produced facts about Israel effect on Gaza. The Child Deaths/The Injures/The Dead. Oh yes….em your point?….Eh that Israel is allowed to do what it wants coz Sri Lanka Killed 25,000 of its own People.
"No. I find it difficult to respect a cult which preaches hatred and endorses murder of those that have the "wrong" sexuality or dare renounce their beliefs.preaches hatred towards other religions and war against "non believers". Treats women like animals and hounds and terrorises anyone from any society that dares even mention the Mohammed and his nine year old bride> A religion that is largely against free speech and frequently against my right to vote and choose my goverment
I suppose i would have to blame my upbringing in the secular civilised world for not getting my kicks out of seeing gays hanged from cranes in public parks and females being circumcised"
Good for you.
We clearly have different Opinions but good to see you alive and well haven’t seen you around for a while.
Don’t worry
Sri Lanka is Next!!!!!!
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