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don’t worry, i can take a bit of stick. we all know he jumped crap. the thing is it just doesn’t stop him, the big dopey git just keeps galloping!! i do think he will improve with experiance, he jumps well at home, and the faster he goes the better he jumps. he just doesn’t concentrate. he was definately better 2nd time round when ap drove him into his fences
Quote: from roblester on 3:00 pm on Oct. 27, 2005[br]hi guys thanks for your thoughts. as far as i know the plan is for the novice chase on the day before the hennesey. ted got home safe and sound. (unlike the owners!)
p.s still of work today. the champagne was flowing freely last night!! but i might try to get out of bed in the morning.<br>
roblester
I was stood at the top of the terrace overlooking the Owners/Trainers terrace. I take it you were one of the loonies shouting "Come On Ted!" from the start!
I think the horse may have to brush up his ‘open ditch drill’ in better company, but good luck for the rest of the season.
Rob
yes that was me, it’s really funny when everyone looks at you and thinks, who the hells ted! we all have a good day out if you hadn’t noticed!!:biggrin:
we’ve got a new plan for his jumping, just let him gallop straight through the fence and on the second circuit there will be a gap big enough for him to get through!
we’ve got a new plan for his jumping, just let him gallop straight through the fence and on the second circuit there will be a gap big enough for him to get through!
I’ve got a great plan for you.
Use a pacemaker to set off in front and destroy the fences during the first circuit and Ted can jump through gaps for the whole race! :biggrin:
BTW, if you use this plan to win at the festival, I expect a bottle of champers to be winging my way in March….
Steve
Quote: from stevedvg on 4:42 pm on Oct. 28, 2005<br>I’ve got a great plan for you.
Use a pacemaker to set off in front and destroy the fences during the first circuit and Ted can jump through gaps for the whole race! :biggrin:   <br>
<br>I’m sure if you spoke to Eric Elliott nicely, he could make Place Above – the nearest the equine world has to a Sherman Tank at present – available for that precise purpose. :biggrin:
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Hi! roblester and welcome to the forum.
He is a magnificent animal and I wish you the best with him.
Can I just ask that you don’t ask too much of him.
Colin
<br>The weights for the Hennessey are up on the Weatherbys website and IG has been given a chase mark of 150, which puts him on 10st 13lbs.
Top weight is Ollie Magern on 11st 12lbs.
AP
Rob,
please please tell me he’ll go for the Hennessy ~ it makes no sense whatsoever to put him in a novice chase where he’ll scare off most of the opposition. I was at the London Racing Club’s Ten To Follow evening a week or so ago, and most of the experts agreed that Iris’s Gift would have a huge chance in the Hennessy if he took his chance. I know he belted the odd fence the other week but I thought that when he was committed at Cheltenham he actually jumped really well.
If he’s going to make up into a Gold Cup horse, then I beg you to go the Hennessy route ~ the big field and strong pace would keep his mind focused and the track is ideal for his style of running. Suny Bay showed a few years ago that you can afford to miss one out and still bolt up. Lord Transcend is another horse who belied his lack of experience to run a huge race last year (and he can’t jump for toffee either).
Pass this on to Jonjo post-haste. ;)
Continuing plea,
Could of just added One Man and Teeton Mill and said that because he is grey he will win the Hennessy!!
Cost me loads to get the handicapper to agree to give him a mark of 150 (as I predicted post Chelt!);)
Still not seen his fence splitting run at Chelt but I would agree ithat he must learn a lot more from the Hennessy than dotting up in a 5 runner novice chase.
Blinkers, Visor, Cheekpieces, Noseband, Smack on the arse at the crucial moment? All might improve jumping, for the owner if not for the horse. :biggrin:
I've stumbled on the side of twelve misty mountains
I've walked and I crawled on six crooked highwaysyou’ve got to love how Johnjo is campaigning this horse- he’s getting plenty of time to learn his job, without being overfaced in a big field. He still doesn’t look a natural over fences but must have a great chance of another boost to his confidence today before meeting the top novices… still wouldn’t like to be trading at odds-on though…
Retirement is the best option. Bar Limestone Lad I can’t think of may failed chasers thathave come back to rule the staying division. After his injuries there has to be a doubt as to whether he’s as good as he was, whatever discipline he attempts.
Shadow of his former self, sadly. I’m sure there is a reluctance to give up with him, I’d be reluctant too if he were mine knowing the ability that is locked away in there, but he owes connections nothing and they, surely, owe him the right to be spared either a prolonged and probably fruitless remainder of his career or, god forbid, an accident which causes severe injury or worse.
It’s their horse and their call but I know what I would like them to do with him.
It jumped the first few fine and apparently it ripped two shoes off. I’d give it another chance in lesser company.
He can jump well until the pace quickens or something comes up sides him. When he fell in the school round Haydock it happened just as they started to turn the tap a bit.
The same at warwick.
and yesterday, just as the race was beginning to pick up a bit at about half way his jumping went to pieces again. Im just happy he got round un hurt, i really did think that something bad was going to happen.
It jumped the first few fine
I don’t agree.
I thought he went through the top of them and he does that thing with his back end which good chasers don’t do.
As I see it, they’ve got 3 realistic choices:
(1) Accept he’ll never be a class 1 chaser and run him as a class 2/3 chaser who’s got jumping problems that could be the end of him.
(2) Put him back over hurdles and hope that the last 2 seasons haven’t ruined him as a hurdler.
(3) Retire him.
There is also option 4, which is to ignore the evidence that is in front of their eyes and put him in against the best chasers next year.
If it was my horse, I’d give option 2 a shot.
Steve
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