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Ruk have the rights from jan 1st 2019, that cant be good for helping the sport, what will ATR do lol?
Atr is head and shoulders above RUK in terms of what they offer extra to the racing. Irish racing have shot themselves in the foot with this move
This is really disappointing; enjoyed ATR’s enthusiasm. Not sure if many people will pay the extra for RUK
RUK is miles better than ATR but I will be annoyed if it raises its monthly subscription for a product that on some days will make its broadcasting of live racing too crowded (regular split screen and commentary for half a race is not on – there is RUK Extra online but this is not available on TV). Also the standard of Irish racecourse commentators is appalling.
Where do this week’s developments leave ATR? Nowhere. When contracts come up more and more British courses will make the leap to RUK, which will only exacerbate the problem of fitting everything in.
I find RUK more professional, on the whole giving far better analysis both pre and post race of British racing than ATR. However, in my opinion at the moment ATR do a good job with Irish racing. This means ATR struggle to survive and RUK’s coverage gets worse, time spread too thinly on both UK and Irish racing.
Value Is EverythingA statement of intent by Jockey Club Racecourses who effectively own RUK. They’ve also broken the partnership with Arena in which they jointly sold overseas racing rights. They are behind the new Tote for racecourses which begins operation on July 13 and it seems to me they have pretty big ambitions. Wouldn’t rule out a major online betting site at some point.
RUK will not treat Irish Racing on equal like ATR does and I can see it going the same way as South African did, very silly of AIR/IHR.
This is why Sky did not rebrand ATR when they bought the controlling share.
I suspect ATR tracks will be merged in with Sky Sports Channel like Main Event and ATR will cease to exist.
RUK have got what they want they can now charge all they want and have complete control.
Irish Racing will eventually disappear from the screens as RUK won’t cope, Sky have never really been interested in horse racing to be honest.
Not a fan of ruk myself,but on the whole like many have stated they will surely struggle to cope, i hate the overlap as it is of racing and you would imagine thag all british races lower grade or not will be prioritised on the day opposed to the irish regardless…. i hate those silly split screens especially when its a class 4 shown over a graded race
A bad move for me. I watch loads of the Irish Flat meetings and I can’t afford to pay RUK subscription as it is. It was invaluable having the replays of the Irish meetings on ATR to catch up with the 2yo races in particular.
To be honest I just watch the actual races and some of the post race trainer interviews, so I don’t really have an opinion on who is the better broadcaster overall but you can readily form an opinion on the Free/Paid debate.
Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.
Apologies I have clicked report instead of quote to the above post.
If ARC decide to give the rights to RUK as well the channel will need two channels and this will cost money the fee will go up significantly.
If this happens RUK will just shove Irish Racing elsewhere and cherry pick the whole sport will go behind a wall and only itv will keep it in the public eye, if RUK courses get greedy with itv in the next renewal the whole sport could be taken away from free to air.
This is a very bad situation and the authorities should be talking to RUK about how they are becoming a monopoly.
Some people on Twitter are saying Ireland has sold itself to the devil and talk of a lot of money changing hands between RUK and Ireland.
Almost ultimate condemnation of the decision on twitter with people rightly pointing out that IHR have in effect put the sport behind a paywall.
At The Races has lost the rights to televise Irish racing from next year, with Racing UK taking over. @brucemillington and @ThomasKerrRP Kerr discuss the ramifications pic.twitter.com/JmU1xEjnna
— Racing Post (@RacingPost) February 2, 2018
Racing post discussion on the decision
I wouldn’t agree that RUK have a better product. Yes they might spend an extra few minutes waffling on at length about every horse in a 12 runner race at Catterick, but their presenters are bland and the station makes little effort to provide anything other than just racing pictures. At least with ATR we have programs such as ontheline, the Monday view, Friday focus, get in, jumpers and bumpers, the final furlong podcast, etc. These engage people far more than a painstaking analysis of the 2:45 from kelso
I agree wex, i find racing uk very bland and i only watch it if i absolutely have to, ATR would be my first choice, listening to the ramble on about why a 100/1 shot might spring a surprise for 5 minutes is annoying
Atr has a much more “user friendly” view, although im not harvey and weavers biggest fans they atleast inject some character into what they are doing, ruk is like listening to an audio book.
Dislike this news majorly…RUK will become even more of a rip off. I’ve got it for £10 per month on the BF deal….but many pay over the top for it, and to be honest, i don’t think they are perfect at all either.
I wouldn’t have their analysis as very good at all. Very basic and not worth £25 each month.
This will increase with Ire racing i am sure, and possibly a second channel.
There are many question marks about this announcement, like will they take on some of the Ire pundits?
It’s in their best interest to do a good job, but it is certainly going to be a very diluted product now.
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Hindsight is 20/20 so make the most of it!Or pay for the rights to the irish to get rid of the opposition then when the renewals come up pay less for the rights next time as there will be no rival channel.
So in the end the IHR will lose out as RUK will just say “go away” when the next rights come up.
Terrible news. Although I prefer RUK’s coverage(better pictures, more analysis direct from race meetings and most importantly none of those bleeding postcode lottery adverts) I have consistently said that we need two dedicated racing channels for the amount of racing there is.
I do wonder if ATR will attempt to strike back. Are there any racecourse deals due to expire soon?
What I would say to those complaining about Irish racing moving to a subscription channel It’s already happened in recent years with Cricket, F1 and golf so racing is no different.
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