The home of intelligent horse racing discussion
The home of intelligent horse racing discussion

Irish champion stakes 2021

Home Forums Big Races – Discussion Irish champion stakes 2021

Viewing 17 posts - 18 through 34 (of 36 total)
  • Author
    Posts
  • #1560077
    Avatar photoHe Didnt Like Ground
    Participant
    • Total Posts 6021

    FF I think he,ll get a race today , poetic flare is def no mug and O’Brien has had a band average season , I wouldn’t want to be taking a short price

    #1560084
    Mike007
    Participant
    • Total Posts 7793

    There you go. Good horse confirmed. Good horse race all round.

    #1560085
    Avatar photoHe Didnt Like Ground
    Participant
    • Total Posts 6021

    Stonker of a finish , I do love poetic flare , hard as nails

    #1560087
    FinalFurlong91
    Participant
    • Total Posts 6657

    Race of the year?

    Really enjoyed that

    Thought tarnawa ran a belter just didn’t have the raw speed of the winner

    There is a stewards and he did impede her but would be amazed if it was changed

    #1560088
    ham
    Participant
    • Total Posts 3487

    HDLG hes a right tough horse PF, a rock solid baseline for form

    But like i said previously SMB for me is by far and away the best 3yo this season, off a setback its a nice performance and i dont think we will find out how good he is as when he gets into full flow he only does enough, he would be very very hard to pass unless nailed on the line, looks to have a solid attitude to me

    Not a clue why there saying tarnawa was inconvenienced, its a 4 runner race, she was not passing him under any circumstance, i thought she ran a cracker though, very tough mare

    #1560090
    Avatar photoCork All Star
    Participant
    • Total Posts 9018

    I expect the result will stand but Moore could have made a better effort to stop the horse from drifting so far across the track.

    #1560091
    Mike007
    Participant
    • Total Posts 7793

    Cork I think Moore intended to go wide but once he did the horse drifted with Moore still riding vigorously to try to win whilst having his whip in the correct hand.

    #1560095
    ham
    Participant
    • Total Posts 3487

    CK could have more than easily came through the middle, theres no interference, whip in the correct hand, you can see tarnawa wasnt passing him on any line, if anything all it would have done is made the 1-2 further infront of PF

    If no speak alexander didnt get thrown out this shouldnt even be a discussion lol

    #1560097
    Avatar photoCork All Star
    Participant
    • Total Posts 9018

    Agree he had his whip in correct hand but did he make any effort to straighten the horse? They are both so wide that the press photographers beyond the post had to take evasive action.

    It seems to me that a lot of jockeys make no effort to keep their horses straight, knowing that as the rules in Britain and Ireland stand, they are very unlikely to lose the race.

    #1560098
    Avatar photoThe Tatling Cheekily
    Blocked
    • Total Posts 2723

    Irish stewards must be on a crate of Guiness per enquiry today.

    BUY THE SUN

    #1560099
    FinalFurlong91
    Participant
    • Total Posts 6657

    There was clear interference ham

    Hes dragged her across the track

    If the winning distance had been less couldve been thrown

    But they’ll never throw something that wins by that far unless it almost knocks the second over

    #1560102
    LD73
    Participant
    • Total Posts 3176

    Interesting watching the ride the filly was given – she got a couple of smacks but I thought it was a very sympathetic ride that indicated what connections have stressed that today wasn’t the be all end all.

    Result stands – a somewhat similar case to the Sky Lantern/Elusive Kate Falmouth Stakes at Newmarket (although the winning margin was shorter there), which wasn’t amended so no chance of it been done here…Ryan knew what he was doing and only corrected him when he was in danger of making contact with the filly.

    Great race.

    #1560107
    Avatar photoIanDavies
    Blocked
    • Total Posts 12998

    Winning time was 5.59 seconds slower than standard.

    Previous three races were 3.35 (1m 2yos), 2.48 (1m), and 1.73 slow.

    Massively tactical race and IMO Tarnawa has run a superb Arc trial.

    I am "The Horse Racing Punter" on Facebook
    https://mobile.twitter.com/Ian_Davies_
    https://www.facebook.com/ThePointtoPointNHandFlatracingpunter/
    It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"

    #1560123
    TheTinMan87
    Participant
    • Total Posts 1042

    It was a good race all round, I feared Poetic Flare would pull his head off and not get home but my word he’s tough as nails and kept battling on even when the other two weren’t near him to draw him in to the fight and he was pretty keen. SMB will almost certainly go to Ascot as a justified favourite (if he goes there) but he seems and they keep saying he has so much speed, it wouldn’t surprise me at all if it ends up a bog and blunts his speed.

    #1560128
    Istabraq
    Participant
    • Total Posts 469

    Poetic Flare was flattered there with the others running off the line plus the slow pace suited him best

    #1560129
    Mike007
    Participant
    • Total Posts 7793

    SMB isnt too ground dependent. Top class on good or soft or very soft.

    #1560178
    mickeyjp
    Participant
    • Total Posts 1770

    Dont think smb was loving the ground. Better with a wee bit of give. I’d be tempted to go for the arc if it was decent ground at longchamp but of course they have snowfall for that.

Viewing 17 posts - 18 through 34 (of 36 total)
  • You must be logged in to reply to this topic.