Home › Forums › Big Races – Discussion › Irish 1000 Guineas 2011
- This topic has 22 replies, 12 voices, and was last updated 15 years ago by
shabby.
- AuthorPosts
- May 17, 2011 at 15:14 #18594
A brilliant race for the trends, with 6 trends applying to 14 of the last 16 winners. Almost always great value to be had in this.
The 1st 2 apply to juvenile form – must have had a run and must have been rated higher than 79. If you want to be really picky, chuck everything out that had 2 runs or more than wasn’t rated at least 100. Halfway to Heaven hadn’t, but there are 85 other horses that also hadn’t and none of those won. I’m going to go along with that for the time being.
Ballybacka Lady, Banimpire, Claiomh Solais, Emiyna, Look At Me, Rose Bonheur, Seeharn and Why
Athasi winners have an appalling record to boot, 98808, another reason to remove Emiyna.
15 of the last 16 winners had run in a Guineas or won last time out.
Handassa, History Note, Look At Me, Majestic Dubawi, Seeharn, Why
So right now we’re looking at an Aidan O’Brien benefit, with him having 3 of the remaining 4 qualifiers. Laughing Lashes, Together, Misty For Me and Wild Wind.
1000 Guineas 2nds-5ths have an appalling record, 1-5-20 over the last 16 runnings. Of the 20 unplaced, 13 hadn’t been making their seasonal debuts, while the winner and 3 of the 5 placed runners had been. I think this is simply a case of the lighter raced horses overtaking the others.
This leaves Together looking quite vulnerable and she’s a horse I want to take on anyway. I’m becoming less and less convinced by the Guineas every day.
2 of the trends are useless in this renewal – the last 16 winners had all run in a Group race and all had won over 7f.
So Laughing Lashes, Misty For Me and Wild Wind are the 3 remaining. The latter’s 3yo career is closing matching that of Halfway to Heaven’s in 2008. They both debuted in the Leopardstown 1000 Guineas Trial and both finished 2nd. Wild Wind ran in a Listed race over 9f which Halfway to Heaven did not, but they both ran in the French 1000 Guineas and both finished 3rd.
Laughing Lashes just ran so badly at Newmarket that I couldn’t even consider backing her, but Tarascon finished 16th beaten 55L behind Cape Verdi at Newmarket and came back to win this so perhaps she deserves a second chance.
I’ll have to wait and see the 48-hour decs but at the moment I’d be leaning towards Wild Wind, with Misty For Me 2nd choice and Laughing Lashes 3rd. I’ve never been a fan of the Misty For Me-Laughing Lashes formline, who crossed swords along with Together twice. Together fared worst on both occasions.
Having said that, Misty For Me’s formline is not dissimilar to that of Yesterday’s. They both ran in the Debutante and Marcel Boussac as juveniles, (Yesterday 2nd and 6th, Misty For Me 2nd and 1st) and both disappointed in the Guineas on their reappearances. Misty For Me had drifted in the 1000 Guineas market markedly about a month before the race and was clearly not ready at HQ.
May 17, 2011 at 16:02 #355843Good stuff fella. Banimpire won LTO, what is the reason for her being ‘lost’? Unusual build up to a Guineas, but Bolgers perhaps an unusual type of trainer with these types. (New Approach, Finsceal Beo to name just two who were perhaps ‘aggressively’ campaigned early in their 3yo seasons.
May 17, 2011 at 16:07 #355845Not rated at least RPR100 as a 2yo despite having had at least 2 starts.
May 17, 2011 at 16:08 #355846Ah yes, sorry, misunderstood your "thrown outs" for "remainings". Perhaps in future i’ll read things properly prior to asking questions.
May 17, 2011 at 16:30 #355848Lol, despite being a trends man my attention for detail is not known for its accuracy
May 17, 2011 at 18:26 #355860I know her 2yo form doesn’t compare, but Emiyna’s Athasi win and Oxx connection give me a bit of a Ridgewood Pearl tingle. I do think Wild Wind is the best chance, and….I am wary of Misty for Me, but I would have Emiyna over LLashes.
May 18, 2011 at 14:42 #355962How Together is not favorite for this.
I can’t believe a John Oxx horse is favorite
May 18, 2011 at 16:56 #355977I’d be stunned if Together managed a place on Sunday.
May 20, 2011 at 15:47 #356245Meh Together is know top class filly but but she has the best form and deserves to be favorite.
Kevin Prendergast could go well at a big price…could be a real unexposed winner of this
May 20, 2011 at 21:10 #356299HISTORY NOTE
Is my tip won her maiden nice she did though was 3rd on her return this year she improve for that run and at a 1m as well
May 22, 2011 at 01:12 #356553History Note an interesting one alright, but have plumped for Handassa to spring a surprise
hopefully she breaks better this time
May 22, 2011 at 05:59 #356563Ignoring Ballydoyle first time out performances seems to be the way to go this season, you only have to see the improvement Together and Wild Wind showed from run 1 to 2 to show the improvement the horses make as the season progresses

On that basis im willing to give Misty For Me a chance to show she has trained on. Desperately disappointing in the Guineas there is no obvious reason to fancy her except the Stable Trend is for huge improvement to be made in Run 2 of the season and that will do for me – she is surely an e/w steal but im hopeful
she can win this
May 22, 2011 at 13:10 #356618Ballybacka Lady ew for me. I’m probably insane…
May 22, 2011 at 13:13 #356619Not insane EmmyK, she ran a good race last time, and has one of the best around on her back in Pat Smullen!
Misty For Me for me
May 22, 2011 at 15:24 #356652Well done the horses mouth!!
Just shows the Newmarket form is there to be turned over! ALso Aidan is ON FIRE!
May 22, 2011 at 15:26 #356653I was sure these 2 Group 1 2yr olds have not trained on
. The boy Aidan!!!!!!May 22, 2011 at 15:52 #356661However i got something right this weekend with the shocking performances by the Oxx Horses. Absoutely terrible

- AuthorPosts
- You must be logged in to reply to this topic.