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I recently started to study inrunning trading and betting. Bought access to a couple of courses about it, and is slowly making progress.
It’s a skill to learn, and takes time to master. But I find it quite fun and exciting to bet inrunning, it fits me well.
At the moment I try to find horses to lay inrunning, when I made an opinion about them that they are beaten.
I also try to L2B inrunning, when I see the right opportunity.
Anyone else in here tried inrunning trading/betting? I am interested to hear your experiences around it.
Jean
Happy horse racing freak
Very tricky/frustrating strategy and you have no chance of beating it if you’re not on a no delayed stream. Is this without even studying any form? Early on in the race seems the best time. I’ve also found prices can over exaggerate on a front runner early on and push out a price of the others. Also bad decisions can be made in a hurry. For instance Zabeel champion yesterday was 2.2/1 pre race not even half way through the race when he was still travelling just as good as any in a good position he got pushed out to 4.7/1 so I added more to my stake
If there is one thing (a lot) harder than beating bookmaker odds compilers, it is beating professional punters.
Big in-running professional gamblers use drones, a seasoned race reader eye when at the track and an in-depth knowledge of the runners and their run style and ability.
When in-running betting launched at Betfair and Flutter in 2001 there were, incredibly, punters betting on it literally blind based on internet radio commentary 45 seconds behind.
Flushing bank notes down the loo would have been about as profitable a use of time.
Nowadays pictures are universal, but any real time delay is still fatal.
It’s a shark-infested water – good luck!
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"It is a minefield and one punters should steer well clear of, in my opinion. The time delay between the pictures on SSR and what is happening in the Betfair in running market is a joke.
Hi Jean,
As the folks say on here, time delay of pictures mean you are very much up against it. There is some quite good podcast material from Pro’s who have bet through the evolution of in play betting and exchanges (Neil Channing on Oddscrackers is a good one
Might be worth a listen to help give you some more background and understanding of the journey and where it is now.
Personally I find there is merit with in play betting but setting up positions before the race to hedge your stake if a horse goes below 2.0 on the exchange and you have bet it at much bigger odds before the race. Likewise setting up bigger odds positions for horses you know will run from the back of the field and finish well can pay dividends.
But that revolves around having a selection (s) pre-race and trying to maximise winnings / cancel out any loss by using in play methods.
I think you are talking about betting based on what you see from the delayed feed which as the folks say is very risky and will be difficult to turn any sort of profit long term as there are just too many players ahead of you in the game.
Good luck anyhow in whatever you do.
Unless things have changed in the few years I’ve not been Racing… Not only are in-running punters up against others with a quicker TV feed; you’re also betting against punters who are backing and laying stood actually on the track itself – pretty much immediate feed.
Value Is EverythingHi Jean
You don’t say how much experience that you have with gambling. There is so much psychology involved when betting. The highs and lows can adversely affect what you do next. Adopt a robot-like attitude ie don’t let what happened in the races before affect what you do in the next race. If you have a winning method then it will prevail in the long run so don’t let losing runs demoralise you or alter your staking. Conversely, a strong winning run could entice you to increase stakes and inevitably this will not end well. Bet staking is extremely important. Set a betting bank large enough to see you through a significant losing run and not too large that you would be personally financially affected if you were to lose it all. Ideally, your betting bank should come from previous gambling profits. I would strongly advise setting liability limits per race. There are so many in-running betting opportunities available that the result of one race should not have a huge impact on your bank. Slow and steady profits are the ideal way to build your bank. Only once you can see that your methods are working and your bank has increased significantly you can look to increase stakes/liabilities. Looking at the volume of money matched in-running there must be lots of profitable angles to make it pay. Will you be looking to trade using on-course in-running facilities or from home relying on race-reading skills?
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