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- June 10, 2012 at 15:00 #21984
There seems to be a worrying trend of regularly omitting obstacles at meetings due to "turf management issues", i.e false ground/ground under repair, at several racecourses.
Another symptom of the saturation of meetings, despite the attempt by the BHA to cut the fixture list to more manageable levels.
The latest examples have been the last fence and the last hurdle in the back straight at Hexham, the first fence down the back straight at Fontwell. I would estimate that probably 50% of meetings now omit an obstacle for one reason or another. (Not including the annoying low sun excuses prevalent at certain times of the year). I can’t remember this happening so regularly as it does these days. Certainly in the twentieth century obstacles were only omitted when the ground was really desperate.
I see Worcester have now removed their chase fences and replaced them with portable fences this season. They seem to have taken the opportunity to reduce the number of fences down the back straight to four (admittedly an increase from the paltry three for the previous meeting).
I assume the BHA have to give dispensation for these omissions. When omissions are authorised, is there a minimum number of obstacles that have to be available to be jumped during races for meetings to take place?
When the full compliment of obstacles are jumped, I think the rules state there must be 8 hurdles for a 2 mile race and then 2 per extra half mile. For chases there must be 12 fences for a 2 mile race and then 3 per extra half mile. Probably allowances are made for some courses due to their layout, i.e. location of road crossings or minimum distance of obstacles from bends.
Several years ago I’m sure there also used to be a stipulation that every NH meeting should include at least one steeplechase over a distance of 3m +. Obviously this rule was relaxed some time ago!
....and you've got to look a long way back for anything else.
June 10, 2012 at 15:13 #407582I have also noted that Worcester seem to be going down the same route as Southwell as regards having Steeplechases first then the hurdles with a Bumper inbetween if they have one down.
For me i dont like it and prefer it how it used to be.
I cannot understand why they have done it as they have plenty of turf to use at Worcester.
June 10, 2012 at 15:28 #407587I have also noted that Worcester seem to be going down the same route as Southwell as regards having Steeplechases first then the hurdles with a Bumper inbetween if they have one down.
For me i dont like it and prefer it how it used to be.
I cannot understand why they have done it as they have plenty of turf to use at Worcester.
A direct result of switching to portable fences. They wouldn’t want to be wheeling fences and hurdles on and off the course every half hour, so they just switch obstacles once during a meeting as Southwell do.
I would guess they are trying to create two courses out of one to produce fresh turf, that hasn’t been raced on, for the latter part of their season.
....and you've got to look a long way back for anything else.
June 10, 2012 at 15:41 #407589What a shame Worcester have done away with their traditional chase course. There has always been plenty of space at Worcester as the hurdles course took over the flat course (when they ceased flat racing). I guess that means the water jump down the back straight has gone too. I am not a fan of these portable fences they encourage lazy jumping and I also like to see chases and hurdles split up throughout the meeting. I wonder which other course will now go down this route after, Southwell, Haydock and now Worcester?
June 10, 2012 at 15:49 #407593What a shame Worcester have done away with their traditional chase course. There has always been plenty of space at Worcester as the hurdles course took over the flat course (when they ceased flat racing).
I guess that means the water jump down the back straight has gone too.
I am not a fan of these portable fences they encourage lazy jumping and I also like to see chases and hurdles split up throughout the meeting. I wonder which other course will now go down this route after, Southwell, Haydock and now Worcester?
The water jump in the back straight disappeared many years ago.
....and you've got to look a long way back for anything else.
June 10, 2012 at 16:32 #407601The latest examples have been the last fence and the last hurdle in the back straight at Hexham,
In fairness to Hexham conditions were dire yesterday and the ground would have been genuinely unsafe to jump the final flight in the back straight. Ditto the two omitted fences.
I only walked part of the course, the relatively better part, and I called it squelchy.
Someone who walked the entire course called it heavy, very heavy in places and with the ongoing rain there were patches of standing water in places.
Hexham were not only lucky to stage the meeting in the first place they were exceptionally lucky to get through the entire card.
The question I would throw back to you is which is preferable – omitting a couple of obstacles or calling the entire meeting off?
June 10, 2012 at 16:51 #407604Looking on tv it looks as though there is a problem with the grass not far from the winning post at Worcester, so guess they have pushed the racing line out to give time for the surface to recover.
I agree totally about the over watering of racecourses, over time this will adversely affect how the grass grows.
June 10, 2012 at 17:09 #407609Also noticed that for the last 5 or 6 years, Uttoxeter have routinely omitted a fence from all chases during their Summer meetings.
June 10, 2012 at 17:10 #407611The latest examples have been the last fence and the last hurdle in the back straight at Hexham,
In fairness to Hexham conditions were dire yesterday and the ground would have been genuinely unsafe to jump the final flight in the back straight. Ditto the two omitted fences.
I only walked part of the course, the relatively better part, and I called it squelchy.
Someone who walked the entire course called it heavy, very heavy in places and with the ongoing rain there were patches of standing water in places.
Hexham were not only lucky to stage the meeting in the first place they were exceptionally lucky to get through the entire card.
The question I would throw back to you is which is preferable – omitting a couple of obstacles or calling the entire meeting off?
Understandable in extreme ground conditions, but the point I’m getting at is omissions are becoming too frequent.
Uttoxeter and Sedgefield, to name only two, regularly find an excuse to omit obstacles. The reasons may be valid, but it appears the courses can’t cope with the amount of racing as this didn’t seem to happen as often in past seasons.
....and you've got to look a long way back for anything else.
June 10, 2012 at 23:30 #407653What a shame Worcester have done away with their traditional chase course. There has always been plenty of space at Worcester as the hurdles course took over the flat course (when they ceased flat racing). I guess that means the water jump down the back straight has gone too. I am not a fan of these portable fences they encourage lazy jumping and I also like to see chases and hurdles split up throughout the meeting. I wonder which other course will now go down this route after, Southwell, Haydock and now Worcester?
Every
steeplechase meeting in the US uses portable fences and most of them have water jumps. The "National Fences" seem taller than the ones in the UK (52") and are fairly solid brush. Of course many meets have permanent timber courses as well and switch between the two courses.
i.e.
http://willowdalesteeplechase.org/cms/p … aseMap.pdf
http://www.steeplechaseatcallaway.org/pdf/2009Map.pdf
http://isteeplechase.com/wordpress/wp-c … se-map.pdfJune 11, 2012 at 08:10 #407667The "National Fences" seem taller than the ones in the UK (52") and are fairly solid brush.
Miss Woodford
Steeplechase fences in the UK are 4’6" in height (54") so there would appear to be only the slightest difference with "National Fences". Biggest fences here would be the Grand National fences which vary between 4′ 6" and 5′ 2".
Stiffness of fences varies as well, certainly from course to course and sometimes from season to season at the same course. Musselburgh’s portable fences were particularly flimsy over the last winter, as witnessed by Fiendish Flame walking through a good proprotion of them to win the chase on New Year’s Day. Perth’s fences always quoted as being soft, but they don’t seem to be and you can’t take too many liberties with them.
Back to the original point htough and I agree that omitting fences seems to happen too often these days. For their first two or three meetings of last season Ayr missed the first two fences in the straight, they hadn’t even been constructed as far as I could see. The second last down the far side has been a regular omission over the last couple of seasons.
Rob
June 11, 2012 at 14:40 #407709The "National Fences" seem taller than the ones in the UK (52") and are fairly solid brush.
Miss Woodford
Steeplechase fences in the UK are 4’6" in height (54") so there would appear to be only the slightest difference with "National Fences". Biggest fences here would be the Grand National fences which vary between 4′ 6" and 5′ 2".
Stiffness of fences varies as well, certainly from course to course and sometimes from season to season at the same course. Musselburgh’s portable fences were particularly flimsy over the last winter, as witnessed by Fiendish Flame walking through a good proprotion of them to win the chase on New Year’s Day. Perth’s fences always quoted as being soft, but they don’t seem to be and you can’t take too many liberties with them.
Rob
Right, but National Fences are considered
hurdles
(since they are jumped in stride vs. out of stride like timber fences)
http://www.oldfieldsschool.org/uploaded/Departments/Riding/2011-2012/Kingfisher_resized.jpg
June 14, 2012 at 18:44 #408106I see Hereford are missing the fence in the home straight (again) tonight.
....and you've got to look a long way back for anything else.
June 16, 2012 at 09:10 #408246Not seeing the statistics, I can’t be sure, but I think you may just be noticing omissions more because of the time of year.
Any groundworks to take offs and landings of fences have to be done at this time of year because of the growing season for the turf. This includes works such as levelling take offs and landings (which form ‘crowns’ as a result of the soil that is used to repair the ground after each meeting building up over the years and also the effect of the horses hooves ‘pushing’ the soil forwards towards the kick board of the fence), replacing fence frames which may be old and drainage works.
As a result, any areas that are worked on in this way cannot be raced over until they are deemed to have fully recovered, therefore certain obstacles need to be omitted. Indeed, we omitted the first in the home straight at Huntingdon on the 29th May because we are replacing the permanent framed fence with a portable one and as a result the ground had to be levelled and wouldn’t have recovered in time to be raced over. However, we carried out the work then to give the ground a good chance of being ready to race over for the August Bank Holiday meeting.
As has already been stated, there have been waterlogging issues as well this summer which has also played a part…
June 16, 2012 at 15:23 #408302The plastic "National" fences used in the US were actually invented in Ireland back in the 70’s for use at Irish Point to Points meet. They are no where near as stiff as a traditional brush chasing fence as seen on British and Irish racecourses, as any one who has stood next to fences on both sides of the Atlantic will tell you.
The Springdale Racecourse in Camden, where they run the Colonial Cup, used to have packed brush fences, have they done away with those and gone plastic too?
June 16, 2012 at 18:27 #408319The plastic "National" fences used in the US were actually invented in Ireland back in the 70’s for use at Irish Point to Points meet. They are no where near as stiff as a traditional brush chasing fence as seen on British and Irish racecourses, as any one who has stood next to fences on both sides of the Atlantic will tell you.
The Springdale Racecourse in Camden, where they run the Colonial Cup, used to have packed brush fences, have they done away with those and gone plastic too?
Springdale had packed pine until last fall, when they got rid of them due to cost-cutting measures. It just costs way too much money for most American tracks to gather, build and maintain brush, especially since they are only used one or two days out of the year.
Montpelier has two jumps courses, one with National fences and one with permanent, living privet hedges:
https://encrypted-tbn1.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR8dep5wuOVWmvZQnJoPU1puKLfhGOji6GUTD-4oyhYM5pukhu8pg
But Willowdale has the best course in the country.
http://willowdalesteeplechase.org/cms/images/gallery/raceday/willowdale2009race-24.jpg
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_w3lDIQSvd0c/S-Lo-bJwk2I/AAAAAAAAAZ4/aWHtFlVqtLI/s400/Gryf.jpg
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_w3lDIQSvd0c/S-Lo95CYOMI/AAAAAAAAAZo/uhY5PfLV1ec/s400/westernfling.jpg
The cross-country Steeplethon course at Great Meadow and Hunt course at Middleburg have several natural fences mixed in, too.
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