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  • #340517
    Getzippy
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    Initially I thought Big Bucks, but I actually feel £5000 E/W on Big Zeb at 7/2 (Ladcrooks) is a guaranteed return.

    You heard it here first, folks –

    GUARANTEED!!!!

    Move over TAPK, Emperor Zippy is here :twisted:

    Zip

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    Avatar photoanthonycutt
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    I’d have Garde Champetre in the Cross Country.

    #340523
    HandyMoney
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    Menorah. He’s not let me down yet :D

    #340552
    Avatar photoThe Ante-Post King
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    Initially I thought Big Bucks, but I actually feel £5000 E/W on Big Zeb at 7/2 (Ladcrooks) is a guaranteed return.

    You heard it here first, folks –

    GUARANTEED!!!!

    Move over TAPK, Emperor Zippy is here :twisted:

    Zip

    Once i have dealt with thm i"ll deal with you Zip! :wink: I like the sound of "Emperor Zip" mind. :lol:

    #340692
    Avatar photoPants
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    Master Minded back to his best this season looks a good thing to me, £10,000 on the nose.

    #340696
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    anyone who doesnt stick this, hypothetical, ten large on Big Bucks ought to be barred from the forum!!! ‘safer than the banks’says Ruby

    if it had to be e/w then what about £5k e/w on Kauto Star – he aint gone away ya know!

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    If was a chicken I’d put it on Big Bucks, but isn’t that a tad ironic?

    Big Bucks = Odds On = Small Bucks :wink:

    Kempes = 25/1 Ryanair = BIG BUCKS

    how would I feel if Kempes won the Ryanair and I went with the cop-out odds on shot. I’d be sick. Homicidal even!

    /Hypothetical Rant

    #340701
    diamond1924
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    a free £10k bet?

    I’d treble up Medermit (arkle) 9/2, Court in Motion 6/1(bartletts) and Galant Nuit (Kim Muir) 10/1. I’d be £4,235,000 better off when it came up and set up for life. I might need to stake it in 5 equal lumps though to avoid the maximum pay outs when it wins.

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    5k e/w treble…sparky may
    somersby
    diamond harry :P

    #340795
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    Kilcrea Kim £5k ew Albert Bartlett.

    Novice with strong handicap form back in a novice, always a useful combination..

    #340809
    Marginal Value
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    I wish I were as rich as some contributers here, to be able to look a gift horse in the mouth by putting the money on a remote-chance treble or a long price hopeful.

    I wish I were as carefree, jolly, fun-loving, happy-with-their-lot, as the people putting the money on a remote-chance treble or long price hopeful.

    A really good question which sorts the optimists from the rest of us. I don’t know whether to be pleased or shocked that there are so many irrational punters among us.

    Big Bucks is the only rational, sensible, money-in-the-hand option to counter the pie-in-the-sky optimists.

    #340812
    diamond1924
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    Like anyone would give me a free bet Marginal? Of course, if I were in that position, my bet would be more sensible.

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    Avatar phototbracing
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    Diamond Harry

    #340823
    Avatar photonulty
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    I wish I were as rich as some contributers here, to be able to look a gift horse in the mouth by putting the money on a remote-chance treble or a long price hopeful.

    I wish I were as carefree, jolly, fun-loving, happy-with-their-lot, as the people putting the money on a remote-chance treble or long price hopeful.

    A really good question which sorts the optimists from the rest of us. I don’t know whether to be pleased or shocked that there are so many irrational punters among us.

    Big Bucks is the only rational, sensible, money-in-the-hand option to counter the pie-in-the-sky optimists.

    Your username is "Marginal Value". Surely then you understand that if someone thinks that the level of value in a 25/1 shot that should be 6/1 at most, is greater than or equal to the value in Big Bucks clear authority then you must follow your principles and go by the book. f value is equal in both bets, then you should take the longer priced bet. Do whats right, not whats easy. How else can you live with yourself?

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    Marginal Value
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    I wish I were as rich as some contributers here, to be able to look a gift horse in the mouth by putting the money on a remote-chance treble or a long price hopeful.

    I wish I were as carefree, jolly, fun-loving, happy-with-their-lot, as the people putting the money on a remote-chance treble or long price hopeful.

    A really good question which sorts the optimists from the rest of us. I don’t know whether to be pleased or shocked that there are so many irrational punters among us.

    Big Bucks is the only rational, sensible, money-in-the-hand option to counter the pie-in-the-sky optimists.

    Your username is "Marginal Value". Surely then you understand that if someone thinks that the level of value in a 25/1 shot that should be 6/1 at most, is greater than or equal to the value in Big Bucks clear authority then you must follow your principles and go by the book. f value is equal in both bets, then you should take the longer priced bet. Do whats right, not whats easy. How else can you live with yourself?

    There is a difference between making money long term from seeking value bets, and winning money on the day, and it’s all to do with the fact that some bets are losing bets.

    Value and the route to long term profit

    If I have a bet for 360 days each year, and I can reliably identify horses whose true odds are 9/1 but they all can be backed at 11/1, I will make a profit.

    I will win on 36 days = 36 x 11 = 396 points profit
    I will lose on 324 days = 324 x 1 = 324 points loss
    Overall profit = 396 – 324 = 72 points profit.

    In any one year, if my judgement or system is reliable I have a 100% chance of making a profit.
    BUT on any given day I only have a 10% chance of making a profit.

    Winning free money

    Someone gives me £10,000 to have a bet on ONE day. I would like to come away with some money rather than no money. Should I follow my system of identifying 9/1 shots that would pay 11/1 giving me only a 10% chance of coming away with some money. Or should I back Big Bucks at 4/5, even though his true value might be 6/4 – really terrible value, but still the shortest real odds on the day, which would give me a 40% chance of coming away with some free money?

    If I take a very attractive woman to a race meeting and say “I will give you a £10,000 diamond necklace if you can pick a winner from just one bet from today’s card.” I would be disappointed in my judgement if she didn’t go for the shortest priced favourite she could find. Of course, she might have come from a racing family and her dad always told her to look for value, and she backed a 25/1 shot because she thought its true odds were closer to 6/1.

    #340942
    msercs
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    Menorah will fly up the Cheltenham hill to win!

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    Given the interruptions from weather and other extenuating circumstances this winter I’d say the safest bet this Cheltenham festival would be in the biggest priced winner market, 33/1 and above.

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