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- July 9, 2010 at 12:09 #15601
are there any forum readers that follow hugh taylor tips?,if so do you ever get the prices .having plenty of time on my hand’s i have checked out 1 year .i found some interesting stats.since the 1 first of june 2009
28 WERE PRICED AT 50/1 AND OVER.NONE WON.AND ONLY 2WERE PLACED
19 PRICED AT 40 TO 49.NONE WON BUT ONE WAS PLACED35 PRICED AT 33/1 ONE WON AND 6 WERE PLACE INCLUDING THE WINNER
51 PRICED AT 25/1 TO 32/1 .2WON AT 25/1 AND 6 WERE PLACED INCLUDING THE WINNER
the average bets he give’s out in a month is about 79
hope this helps any one who follows hughes bets from .AT THE RACES
July 9, 2010 at 12:21 #305610
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He’s quality!
July 9, 2010 at 12:26 #305612Yeah he is Superb
Top Man
July 9, 2010 at 13:54 #305633Now
there’s
a tipster.
He must have great ‘man’ behind him!
July 9, 2010 at 15:46 #305664Now you’re talking … this guy is my kind of tipster and I find he reads races very similarly to myself in looking for the not so obvious and the horses that have often shown promise without finishing in the frame … strike rate not necessarily the best but invariably excellent value when they do win.
Downside is that bookies are very aware what this guy is tipping on any given day and once the tips are online on ATR website they can contract very quickly … so, in answer to the question, I would have to say it’s very rare to get the prices quoted by Hugh unless you’re very quick.
Of course, Tom Segal (Pricewise) continues to give excellent advice as well and I find it irritating and comforting in equal amounts when he occasionally comes to the same conclusion as me when searching for the value in a race … I often open Saturday’s RP in trepidation to find my extensively researched "value" bet headlining his column … grrrrrr … and you can guarantee that by the time I get down to the bookies the price will have contracted considerably.
July 9, 2010 at 20:41 #305713An excellent tipster but a victim of his won success. I don’t believe it is possible to make money backing his tips though.
A lesson to anyone that wants to make money of what you can achieve with an undertsanding of odds/value and an interpretive formbook.
July 9, 2010 at 21:25 #305724Ironically, from one of the few tipsters that is worth a second glance you still make more money laying his tips.
July 11, 2010 at 12:19 #305948are there any forum readers that follow hugh taylor tips?,if so do you ever get the prices .having plenty of time on my hand’s i have checked out 1 year .i found some interesting stats.since the 1 first of june 2009
28 WERE PRICED AT 50/1 AND OVER.NONE WON.AND ONLY 2WERE PLACED
19 PRICED AT 40 TO 49.NONE WON BUT ONE WAS PLACED35 PRICED AT 33/1 ONE WON AND 6 WERE PLACE INCLUDING THE WINNER
51 PRICED AT 25/1 TO 32/1 .2WON AT 25/1 AND 6 WERE PLACED INCLUDING THE WINNER
the average bets he give’s out in a month is about 79
hope this helps any one who follows hughes bets from .AT THE RACES
Can only echo other’s views.
Just to emphasise the maths:
Value betting means you are trying to win more than 2% (1 in 50) of your bets at 50/1. So 28 losers at 50/1 or more is nothing. 2.4% for 40/1 so 19 losers is nothing. The other statistics are what you might expect.Understandably and unfortunately, bookmakers are reluctant to lay the prices Hugh tips; they are in business and can not afford to lay too much.
Hugh is an excellant tipster, and a member of this forum.
Would like to know what margin for error he works to?
Does he look for horses he believes have a 1%, 2%, 5% or more above the bookmakers price? e.g. something he thinks has a fair 15% (11/2) when available at 9/1 (10%) is a 5% difference.
If only tipping horses he thinks are 5% better than advertised, then even if bookmakers reduce those prices immediately, punters should still make a profit.
Obviously that 5% might reduce at bigger prices, a 50/1 tip might only be thought of as a 22/1 or 25/1 chance; just a 2.3% or 2% difference.As a value seeker myself would love to know what an expert like Hugh thinks of my betting thread.
Corm,
What about a Hugh Taylor Q and A?Value Is EverythingJuly 11, 2010 at 13:08 #305952Gingertipster wrote…As a value seeker myself would love to know what an expert like Hugh thinks of my betting thread
This might come as a bit of an embarrassment to you Ginger, but rumour has it that he always studies your thread before deciding on his eventual tips. In fact, far be it from me to suggest, perhaps it’s all down to you that he enjoys his fame and success. So don’t be surprised if he drops a cheque in the post to you soon, Ginge.
July 11, 2010 at 13:43 #305957Gingertipster wrote…As a value seeker myself would love to know what an expert like Hugh thinks of my betting thread
This might come as a bit of an embarrassment to you Ginger, but rumour has it that he always studies your thread before deciding on his eventual tips. In fact, far be it from me to suggest, perhaps it’s all down to you that he enjoys his fame and success. So don’t be surprised if he drops a cheque in the post to you soon, Ginge.

I always suspected that to be the case Ken.

Nice one!
Value Is EverythingJuly 11, 2010 at 14:01 #305960Would like to know what margin for error he works to?
Does he look for horses he believes have a 1%, 2%, 5% or more above the bookmakers price? e.g. something he thinks has a fair 15% (11/2) when available at 9/1 (10%) is a 5% difference.More accurately you should be working to the expected value of the opportunity presented rather than just a percentage of the tables of odds.
July 11, 2010 at 15:56 #305972Would like to know what margin for error he works to?
Does he look for horses he believes have a 1%, 2%, 5% or more above the bookmakers price? e.g. something he thinks has a fair 15% (11/2) when available at 9/1 (10%) is a 5% difference.More accurately you should be working to the expected value of the opportunity presented rather than just a percentage of the tables of odds.
Eh?

What do you mean tb?
Value Is EverythingJuly 11, 2010 at 17:38 #305986pm
July 11, 2010 at 18:00 #305988EV = P (G) – P (L)
July 13, 2010 at 17:40 #306222edited
July 13, 2010 at 17:48 #306225Personaly i alway pick my own horses i have never bean interested in Hugh Taylor pricewise or anyone else,they may be good enough judges but i have still found they get it wrong like everyone else far better to make your own choices every time.
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