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Over the past ten years in uk horseracing how many chasers have fallen compared to that of hurdlers
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A lot
Bear in mind that horses often start their careers over hurdles so for some their jumping in general can be a work in progress. Often by the time they are chasing they have more experience and confidence about jumping obstacles at racing speed. Also that jumps actually look more imposing whereas hurdles can be less respected- so there may be more instances of them ‘tripping up’ a horse that’s being careless.
Bear in mind that horses often start their careers over hurdles so for some their jumping in general can be a work in progress. Often by the time they are chasing they have more experience and confidence about jumping obstacles at racing speed. Also that jumps actually look more imposing whereas hurdles can be less respected- so there may be more instances of them ‘tripping up’ a horse that’s being careless.
I think that’s bang on the money.
I personally think that hurdling is actually more dangerous than chasing. Because the horses tend to be less experienced & the horses don’t give hurdles as much respect but I also think it’s down to the way a horse falls. Using a human analogy, if you jump over something large & fall down you have a split second longer to set yourself for it than you would something smaller. And speaking as someone who has fallen down alot in his life, that split second can make all the difference.
Going by the definition Fell i ran a quick database check since 1st Jan 2000 and the answer is
UK
Chase – 6601
Hurdle – 4186Ireland
Chase – 3815
Hurdle – 2434Note this doesnt include any Brought down, Carried Out, Refused To Race etc.
It also obviusly includes many duplicates (horses who have fell more than once). Out of interest in the same time period, would anyone care to guess which horse has fallen the most times (8)?
There’s a question. If we included the nineties, I’d be tempted to go for Black Humour, who seemed to come a cropper all the time. For post 2000 though, I’m struggling…
That old boy of Venetia’s in the blue and yellow colours has fallen a few times; so did Nordance Prince.
Evan Williams had a lethal jumper that must have fallen 4-5 times; and Bible Lord is another that seems to hit the deck regularly.
Out of interest in the same time period, would anyone care to guess which horse has fallen the most times (8)?
The horse who sprang instantly to mind was Tremallt.
Sorry i forgot to answer my own question. It was one of those where if anyone had got it, i would have been mightily impressed!
You were very close with Redemption, so fair play there!
Jaloux Destruval (FR) – 8 falls
Redemption, Ceoil Agus Craic (IRE) & Venn Ottery – 7 falls eachOut of interest in the same time period, would anyone care to guess which horse has fallen the most times (8)?
The horse who sprang instantly to mind was Tremallt.
Remember Tremallt well.
Actually a bold jumper, who made the odd catastrophic error.
Also won us the West Berkshire Racing Club quiz in 2004.
The question "Which 200/1 shot led the field in the 2003 Grand National, eventually finishing 9th?Apparently the Racing Post and Raceform teams did not know. Lucky he was a favourite of mine!
Sorry you could not make this year’s quiz Rory, hope to see yourself, Jeremy and co next year.
Value Is EverythingSorry you could not make this year’s quiz Rory, hope to see yourself, Jeremy and co next year.
In the words of Jarvis Cocker, Ginger, I’ll see what I can do…
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