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I remember some time in the late 80’s an Arsenal player getting a 9 match ban for punching an opposing player. I think it was Paul Davis, who broke Glenn Cockerill’s jaw in an incident that wasn’t seen by the officials on the day. I think it was one of the first cases of video evidence used to punish a player.
Anyway, my question is, if that was worth a 9 match ban, what should the Benfica player get for the ugliest tackle I have ever seen in my life on Scott Brown last night.
Does it, or should it matter that his leg didn’t break?
I’m reading now on Sky Sports News that UEFA will investigate and punish accordingly.
Of course, you can’t compare last night’s incident with what happened to Paul Davis as last night’s incident was punished there and then by the ref.
But surely, a tackle like that needs severely clamping down on so that UEFA can send a message out that such tackles have no place in the game. It was pre-meditated and the guy clearly tried to break Brown’s leg. Like I say, it was horrendous and I don’t think I have ever seen a worse tackle in my life. How Brown’s leg didn’t snap is beyond me, and I am just so glad the lad is ok.
Personally I would give the Benfica player (who’s name I can’t remember and don’t care to remember) at least a 6 match ban. Hopefully UEFA throw the book at him.
Any opinions?
Mike
I remember some time in the late 80’s an Arsenal player getting a 9 match ban for punching an opposing player. I think it was Paul Davis, who broke Glenn Cockerill’s jaw in an incident that wasn’t seen by the officials on the day. I think it was one of the first cases of video evidence used to punish a player.
Anyway, my question is, if that was worth a 9 match ban, what should the Benfica player get for the ugliest tackle I have ever seen in my life on Scott Brown last night.
Does it, or should it matter that his leg didn’t break?
I’m reading now on Sky Sports News that UEFA will investigate and punish accordingly.
Of course, you can’t compare last night’s incident with what happened to Paul Davis as last night’s incident was punished there and then by the ref.
But surely, a tackle like that needs severely clamping down on so that UEFA can send a message out that such tackles have no place in the game. It was pre-meditated and the guy clearly tried to break Brown’s leg. Like I say, it was horrendous and I don’t think I have ever seen a worse tackle in my life. How Brown’s leg didn’t snap is beyond me, and I am just so glad the lad is ok.
Personally I would give the Benfica player (who’s name I can’t remember and don’t care to remember) at least a 6 match ban. Hopefully UEFA throw the book at him.
Any opinions?
Mike
Absolutely vile, wasn’t it?
For those with a strong stomach the tackle is here on YouTube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOsRnN8EBW0
The offender is called Augustin Binya.
My view is that he should be banned for 12 months without pay or endorsements with a suspended life ban for any repetition.
Nonsense!
It was a horrendous tackle and Binya was well out of order but the ref dealt with it with a straight red card, to speak of taking action against the player is ridiculous given that there was no harm done to Brown (who incidentally has been known to throw the odd wild tackle in himself) .
Had Brown’s leg been broken then that would be a different matter.
You see wild tackles in almost every game of football these days so why should this tackle be any different as to be investigated?
I’ve seen plenty of worse tackles with far more serious consequences.
Nonsense!
It was a horrendous tackle and Binya was well out of order but the ref dealt with it with a straight red card, to speak of taking action against the player is ridiculous given that there was no harm done to Brown (who incidentally has been known to throw the odd wild tackle in himself) .
Had Brown’s leg been broken then that would be a different matter.
You see wild tackles in almost every game of football these days so why should this tackle be any different as to be investigated?
I’ve seen plenty of worse tackles with far more serious consequences.
From Glasgow are you? Just out of interest are you a Rangers fan? I’m not a Celtic fan (in derbies I favour Rangers).
As the YouTube uploader implies, the tackle was like Roy Keane’s assault on Haaland a few years ago. That tackle finished Haaland as a player and it was only sheer good luck that prevented a similar outcome last night. The intent was certainly there!
Nonsense!
It was a horrendous tackle and Binya was well out of order but the ref dealt with it with a straight red card, to speak of taking action against the player is ridiculous given that there was no harm done to Brown (who incidentally has been known to throw the odd wild tackle in himself) .
Had Brown’s leg been broken then that would be a different matter.
You see wild tackles in almost every game of football these days so why should this tackle be any different as to be investigated?
I’ve seen plenty of worse tackles with far more serious consequences.
Nonesense
So just because Browns leg didn’t break it’s ok not to impose any further punishment. Is that what you are saying?
Yes you do see wild tackles in every game. This WAS NOT a wild tackle Jim, surely you can see that. This was a pre-meditated tackle, with the sole intention of harming another player. How you think it’s ridiculous to take action against the player is beyond me.
I am certain that further action (other than the standard ban for a red card) will be taken, and the more severe the action the better in my opinion.
I am amazed on a few fronts. First of all, that you are in defence of no further action being taken. Secondly that you question why this tackle is any different to a wild tackle. And finally that you say you have seen plenty of worse tackles. Please show me some.
Mike
One of the worst that I have seen and it was intentional – just luck that the leg did not get broken. Soccer does not need idiots like Binya – let’s stop this softy softy attitude and ban him for life – may stop similar incidents in the future.
I agree entirely with MikkyMo. It was a terrible tackle, and a pre-meditated one at that. I am a Celtic fan (season tkt holder) and I was absolutely incensed by the Benfica player’s outrageous assault – as were his Benfica team-mates I might add. Brown’s leg could easily have been broken, and Celtic would have had do without the best midfield player in Scotland, in my opinion – a player who incidentally Newcastle’s San Allardyce was purportedly willing to pay £9m for at the start of the season, but Celtic rightly turned him down.
That apart, great win.
Bring on the Shakhtar.
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Jesus wept
Players don’t go into tackles to break opposing players legs, however it was a horrendous tackle and yes I have seen worse tackles, how about the tackle Neil Simpson did on Ian Durrant in an Aberdeen v Rangers game years ago that ended his career, you’ll go a long way to beat that one.
Yes I’m a Rangers man but so is Scott Brown so what’s your point?
Best midfielder in Scotland? yer havin’ a laugh, I’ve only just read that McGeady is even better than Ronaldo of Man Utd, Celtic fans take things too far.
Here’s a quote I found on the Simpson tackle…
Ian Duurant was once the most exceptional talent in Scottish football, but a horrendous tackle from Neil Simpson of Aberdeen in October 1988 put him out of the game for 3 years. Every time he is written off, the stylish midfielder returns to show there is life left in those rebuilt legs. A naturally gifted player, he made his mark by running at packed defences and by scoring cheeky but inspired goals in the process.
Here’s a few other pieces that I found :-
http://www.avforums.com/forums/archive/ … 72661.html
Please keep it real when talking about football.
Jim,
Practice what you preach mate – keep it real when talking about football.
"People don’t go into a tackle to break players legs" is what you said.
I would advise you take a look at the incident again, in fact, take of your Rangers head and watch the incident again a few more times. Then tell me that he didn’t go into that tackle with the intention of breaking his leg.
Are you seriously saying, that if that tackle was on a Rangers player, then you would have exactly the same feelings that you have now? Something tells me not. The fact that you were quick to give an opinion against Brown (a Celtic player) being the best midfielder in Scotland suggests to me that you really are talking from a Rangers perspective, rather than a football perspective.
You have agreed that the tackle was horrendous, but the fact that you don’t think any further action should bet taken astounds me, especailly after you have asked us to keep it real when talking about football.
Your are fully entitled to your opinion however, but you know for a fact that you are in the minority. UEFA WILL impose a longer ban than what a red card usually gets, that I am certain.
I just hope that a Rangers player doesn’t have to endure such a tackle in the future.
Good luck tonight by the way. I will be cheering you on as my financial interest went down the pan when Valencia failed to turn up against Rosenberg last night
.It will be a hard game of course, but I wouldn’t be too down hearted if you get beat because I still think all you will need to do is beat Lyon at home to qualify – something I think you are well capable of doing. And if results go your way, a draw at home to Lyon could well suffice.
Mike
Mikky what’s your problem?
I like Scott Brown and he could easily have been a Rangers player but chose to take the better wages that was on offer at Celtic at the time, and there have been bad tackles on Rangers players and there will be plenty more no doubts, in fact I don’t care what team is involved here, the fact remains that it was a horrendous tackle and it has been dealt with accordingly by the ref, and YES players don’t go in to break other players legs that is also a fact, however I agree it can appear to look like they mean it, the tackle on Durrant that I mention was far more serious than the tackle Scott Brown had to endure as Durrant’s career was effectively ended, Scott Brown is lucky enough to fight another day and I’m glad he can
Mikky the reason I entered into this topic is because I wanted to keep things to a perspective as I’ve read so much rubbish on this subject and you added to what I’ve been reading on various football forums since the Brown/Binya incident.
ps. Mikky its possible Scott Brown isn’t even the best Celtic midfielder at the club let alone the best in Scotland.
maybe you’d be better asking Celtic fans who they think their best midfielder is?Celtic’s best player is Aiden McGeady (and my favourite player). Although he plays wide left, he is more of an attacker than midfielder in the traditional sense.
As for Nakamura, great player when on form, but tends to blow hot and cold.
Anyhow, I’m not going to get embroiled in the senseless Old Firm, my dad’s bigger than your dad nonsense, though I admit I have Barcelona as part of a tasty looking accumulator – which, I’m pleased to say is still running along nicely.
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Jim,
I don’t have a problem, what gives you that idea?. I simply have an opinion, similar to that of many many others, but different to yours.
So please enlighten me about the ‘rubbish’ that you have been reading on this subject.
Is it, that the ‘rubbish’ you have been reading about on this subject is all about people wanting this player to get the book thrown at him, whereas you seem to be the only one that doesn’t
. Well, I wouldn’t be surprised if 60,000 Rangers fans don’t think any further action should be taken either.And please don’t state that something is a fact, when it clearly isn’t a fact. Roy Keane has openly admitted that he went in ‘to do him’ when talking about ‘that tackle’ – so this makes your statement "and YES players don’t go in to break other players legs that is also a fact" to be false.
Jim, you know that you can’t honestly say that the guy last night didn’t go in to harm the Celtic player. You know you can’t say it was a mis-timed tackle, In fact, you have already agreed that it was an horrendous tackle. So if this is the case, then why don’t you want horrendous tackles clamping down on? Because believe me, if this lad doesn’t get punished further, it means he has got away with just a one or two match ban. Surely an horrendous career threatening tackle deserves more than that – or are you going to tell me that it wasn’t career threatening, just because you have the benefit of hindsight and know that Brown wasn’t injured.
Regarding Brown, I haven’t got a clue whether he is Celtic or Scotland’s best midfielder, I have no opinion whatsoever on the subject. I wasn’t the one who offered this as a debate, I was just stating that you were quick to argue against it.
Mike
Lets get one thing straight here – Binyan went in to hurt Brown but I’m not having this crap that he went in wanting to break his leg FFS!
Himself – Anyhow, I’m not going to get embroiled in the senseless Old Firm, my dad’s bigger than your dad nonsense, though I admit I have Barcelona as part of a tasty looking accumulator – which, I’m pleased to say is still running along nicely.
… lol… says it all really.
would you care to tell us which other teams are on this accumulator so we can all watch?
For the record a draw against Barcelona will be a great achievement, they are not unbeatable but having said that I think we’ll have to wait until we beat Stuttgart in Germany so that the last game at Ibrox won’t matter and we can enjoy the occasion.
Mikky I’ve just read your latest post on this matter and I think it’s best left to we agree to differ, I’m not keen on opinions I prefer to deal in facts, sorry.
Just for the record, JIm:
Celtic, Lyon, Barcelona, Man Utd. Home win accum.
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Himself,
On Tuesday I placed my bet;
Liverpool, Man Utd, Lyon, Inter Milan, Barcelona, Leeds, MK Dons AND bloody Valencia
So at the last minute last night I went back in on, Barcelona, Man Utd, Inter Milan, Lyon, Sevilla, Fenerbach AND bloody Arsenal
I have to say, Liverpool, Man Utd, Inter Milan and Barcelona looked shoe in’s and were my 4 bankers. I should have just gone large on these 4 instead of getting greedy and adding the extra few teams. We live and learn
Well done on your bet mate.
Mike
Himself,
On Tuesday I placed my bet;
Liverpool, Man Utd, Lyon, Inter Milan, Barcelona, Leeds, MK Dons AND bloody Valencia
So at the last minute last night I went back in on, Barcelona, Man Utd, Inter Milan, Lyon, Sevilla, Fenerbach AND bloody Arsenal
I have to say, Liverpool, Man Utd, Inter Milan and Barcelona looked shoe in’s and were my 4 bankers. I should have just gone large on these 4 instead of getting greedy and adding the extra few teams. We live and learn
Well done on your bet mate.
Mike
Thanks.
Hard luck with yours. It’s always the way that one team inevitably let’s the accum down. Better luck next time Mikky.
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maybe you’d be better asking Celtic fans who they think their best midfielder is?
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