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  • #256242
    Avatar photoGerald
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    Thanks Rory, but I’ve actually got all of those in my spreadsheet already, from the same source.

    So your post doesn’t go to waste, I’ll start checking them now.

    Gerald

    PS, I’ve noticed as a test, you left Kauto off.

    #256244
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    PS, I’ve noticed as a test, you left Kauto off.

    He was rated so high, my mouse wouldn’t reach!

    #256253
    Avatar photoGerald
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    :lol:

    You actually made me laugh for once, but that may be my masterplan for this evening kicking in. I’ve started drinking already, so that I can sleep soundly, and then wake up at midnight for the racing from Flemington.

    Okay, what I’m trying to do is identify those horses that have had a setback, but no one has said anything yet.

    I haven’t started any investigating yet, but I thought I’d just publish the list, and let others fill in the gaps. It may be that a trainer has got several horses and already has 2 or 3 aimed at this race.

    Horses not entered in the Hennessy

    Kauto Star – accounted for
    Exotic Dancer – Dead
    Neptune Collonges – Injured
    Nacarat – main target King George
    Tamarinbleu – runs Saturday
    Cooldine – WFA
    Black Apalachi – doesn’t want to affect GN weight?
    Star de Mohaison – Injured/may retire
    Gungadu
    Nozic – Becher chase
    Rare Bob
    Breedsbreeze
    Comply Or Die
    Joncol
    Monkerhostin – retired (?)
    Ollie Magern – runs Saturday
    Don’t Push It
    Miko De Beauchene
    Ornais
    Possol
    Rambling Minster
    Tricky Trickster – Hurdle runs until GN weights out
    Wichita Lineman – Dead
    Preists Leap
    Roulez Cool
    Opera Mundi
    Fundamentalist – ran Saturday
    Nevada Royale
    Surface To Air
    Parsons Legacy – ran twice this season already
    Light On The Broom
    Shining Gale
    Wheresben – not run since Dec 27
    Jaunty Flight – was meant to run in this. Something amiss?
    Lacdoudal – ran Saturday
    Money Trix
    Southern Vic
    Abbeybraney – still a novice (?)
    Ambobo
    Battlecry
    Cane Brake
    Cornish Sett – Wincanton
    Eric’s Charm – main target London National / RH?
    Maljimar – ran this season
    Millenium Royal – French
    Simon
    Auroras Encore
    Ballistraw
    Leading Attraction – Dead
    Russian Around
    Brooklyn Brownie
    Fleet Street
    Kilbeggan Blade
    Standin Obligation

    It may be that a few of the 10yos+ haven’t been bothered to have been entered because people know they don’t have a particularly good record in it.

    #256268
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    Can’t remember what I read about Surface to Air the other day [or where I read it]. Could it be that he was ready to run again, but then they found a bit of heat in his leg? He’s certainly an interesting one if he is back this year.

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    Surface To Air out for the season, moehat.

    #256415
    Avatar photoThe Ante-Post King
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    I have always liked a 2nd season chaser for this and the horse that fits the bill this year is

    Carruthers

    ,just took 15 on the machine.If as expected Denman should run then this fellow will feel as if he has been let loose!

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    Gone to Lunch

    153 (10-5) perhaps wouldn’t have the same scope for improvement and may be a bit of a boat but he is another who will stay every yard and is very well suited to Newbury’s big oval track, and could definitely stay on into a place.

    Nice Hennessy prep for GFL today. Can’t think of a worse track for him than Ascot so did ell to finish wher he did and stayed on nicely in the straight

    #256445
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    I think Gone to Lunch is a fantastic horse; had he not had such a torrid time at Cheltenham he would have a much higher profile this season.

    #256482
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    Gone to Lunch is slow and ain’t good enough. I’ll eat my own head if he wins the Hennessy!!

    #256484
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    Gone to Lunch is slow and ain’t good enough. I’ll eat my own head if he wins the Hennessy!!

    I don’t think he’ll win it (although I would love to see someone eat their own head so I’ll be cheering him on nevertheless!) but I can definitely imagine him running something like:

    "In touch, ridden and outpaced 5 out, rallied from 3 out, finished well, not reach leaders"

    . . . he’ll love the track with it’s long straights and could use his bottomless stamina to be a fast finishing (but unthreatening) 3rd or 4th, staying on past beaten rivals. He’ll probably be a 12/1-16/1 shot to win the race which I wouldn’t be overly interested in, but I really like the idea of backing him TBP @ 10/3, 7/2 ish

    #256517
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    Okay, this is what I’ve gleaned from the RP:-

    Horses not entered in the Hennessy

    Kauto Star – accounted for
    Exotic Dancer – Dead
    Neptune Collonges – Injured
    Nacarat – main target King George
    Tamarinbleu – runs Saturday
    Cooldine – WFA
    Black Apalachi – doesn’t want to affect GN weight?
    Star de Mohaison – Injured/may retire
    Gungadu
    Nozic – Becher chase
    Rare Bob
    Breedsbreeze –

    Comply Or Die
    Joncol –

    Monkerhostin – retired (?)
    Ollie Magern – runs Saturday
    Don’t Push It –

    Miko De Beauchene
    Ornais –

    Possol –

    Rambling Minster
    Tricky Trickster – Hurdle runs until GN weights out
    Wichita Lineman – Dead
    Preists Leap
    Roulez Cool –

    Opera Mundi –

    Fundamentalist – ran Saturday
    Nevada Royale –

    Surface To Air –

    Parsons Legacy – ran twice this season already
    Light On The Broom –

    Shining Gale –

    Wheresben – not run since Dec 27
    Jaunty Flight – was meant to run in this. Something amiss?
    Lacdoudal – ran Saturday
    Money Trix –

    Southern Vic
    Abbeybraney –

    Ambobo –

    Battlecry –

    Cane Brake –

    Cornish Sett – Wincanton
    Eric’s Charm – main target London National / RH?
    Maljimar – ran this season
    Millenium Royal – French, ran September
    Simon –

    Auroras Encore –

    Ballistraw

    Leading Attraction – Dead
    Russian Around –

    Brooklyn Brownie –

    Fleet Street –

    Kilbeggan Blade –

    Standin Obligation –

    I’m generally assuming that horses that ran in May are just late back.

    Possol was a false alarm. Would I be wrong to automatically assume Grand National if Possol is having a go at hurdles? This is in the context of Possol being at a low price in the betfair GN market, despite his age. Rather creates the impression that someone stable-attached is backing him.

    edit:
    Wednesday 23rd September 2009
    Jaunty Flight has picked up a small injury which will mean she is going to have box rest for a month. It is nothing serious but will rule her out at a possible tilt at the Hennessy.

    #256592
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    I thought Killyglen ran a nice Hennessy prep today. The ground wouldn’t have suited at all (Howard Johnson has always said horse wants decent ground) and the winner (Knockara Beau) might just turn out to be a contender for the Arkle or RSA Chase at the festival. He finished 5th beaten just 10l behind Mikael D’Haugenet in the Ballymore hurdle this year.

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    Casey Jones will win this by a country mile!

    #257010
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    I have always liked a 2nd season chaser for this and the horse that fits the bill this year is

    Carruthers

    ,just took 15 on the machine.

    I’d take on anything with this beast on genuine soft or heavy. The horse travels and jumps out of it better than anything I’ve seen for a long while and was, for me, the stand-out novice chaser last year.

    #257189
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    Towards the end of last season started to think about this race and Carruthers and Killyglen were the ones who stood o like a sore thumb. Carruthers obviously needs it soft or worse but is monstorously effective on those terms. Killyglen would want g/s or soft and he would be my main bet for it.

    So will be looking at betting the pair on a 2-1 ratio

    2pts killyglen
    1pt Carruthers

    Think longterm carruthers should go for the welsh national though, off a rating of 149 nothing would get near him, he travels brilliantly and loves the likely ground.

    #257215
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    I’m a big fan of Carruthers, I backed him in the Reynoldstown and the Rsa, but do you guys not think he also needs a small field and an uncontested lead to be seen athis best :?:

    #257222
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    I dont think Carruthers is quirky like that THM, I think its more a case that he needs ground conditions that bring his stamina and travelling ability into play. When you look at how he beats horses on soft or heavy ground, they are ran ragged and he is travelling really well. At cheltenham on better ground he is usually travelling well towards the death, but as soon as the tempo is lifted he starts making mistakes and dont think he has the gears for g/s or better (at least not at the sort of trip hes been running at anyways). I think the welsh national is the perfect race for him, and he’s on a cracking rating for it, however, if it were to come up soft at newbury on hennessy day, he’d obviously have a cracking chance.

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