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September 4, 2008 at 13:22 #179349
Is Eqiano a definate runner? If so, surely 8/1 is grossly underestimating his chances. Arguably the best form of any of these.
September 4, 2008 at 13:38 #179351I’m with you on that to an extent, but 6f on soft is a pretty sizeable question mark. This looks like a no bet race to me, but if I were to play it would probably be on Equiano at the prices.
September 4, 2008 at 13:50 #179353Is Eqiano a definate runner? If so, surely 8/1 is grossly underestimating his chances. Arguably the best form of any of these.
I agree. I’m surprised at his price however I would be backing him to place only. Have a feeling his stamina may let him down in the final furlong. If this was over 5f he’d be shorter.
This is a trappy G1 overall given the field and conditions but i’m going to have a small e/w poke on Al Qasi who has a 50% strike rate over the distance 3 of those on softer ground. Indeed his only group win was on bottomless ground at the Curragh. Still available at 20/1; i’ve seen worse 20/1 shots.
September 4, 2008 at 18:07 #179383I’m not sure I’d fancy backing any 3yo’s if the ground is going to be as bad as people are suggesting.
I was considering Reverence, but he seems underpriced at 12/1. I’m not sure whether to take that as a positive though? As a 7yo with mediocre form this year, I was thinking he deserved to be a 25/1-33/1 shot.
He has shown one or two glimpses of ability this year, & the trainer seems to be talking him up. He’s the type who could run well in a wet race like this, a bit like the old regular Somnus did a for a few years on the trot.
September 4, 2008 at 19:32 #179394Taken US Ranger at 7/1 with a small ante-post bet but will probably go for Utmost Respect too come Saturday.
Utmost Respect seems to be a progressive sprinter, coming on from a tight Grp3 victory over Zidane to a 4th in a Grp1 behind Marchand D’or is good enough for me. Especially as this sprinter seems to be at his best on heavy/soft ground.
I think the heavy ground will go a long way in Utmost Respect’s favour on his Newcastle form and can shut the gap on African Rose.
September 4, 2008 at 20:17 #179401I’m not sure I’d fancy backing any 3yo’s if the ground is going to be as bad as people are suggesting.
I was considering Reverence, but he seems underpriced at 12/1. I’m not sure whether to take that as a positive though? As a 7yo with mediocre form this year, I was thinking he deserved to be a 25/1-33/1 shot.
He has shown one or two glimpses of ability this year, & the trainer seems to be talking him up. He’s the type who could run well in a wet race like this, a bit like the old regular Somnus did a for a few years on the trot.
I agree with you entirely Colin. Reverence showed a glimpse of his old self last time out at Chester (albeit in a listed race). It was a most eyecatching performance. However any apparent value seems to have gone now. 33/1 yes 12/1? not for me.
I think this race (as most of these sprints do) looks incredibly hard to solve. If I had to pick one at this stage it would just be a speculative punt on Prime Defender @ 50/1
September 4, 2008 at 20:41 #179410AnonymousInactive- Total Posts 17716
I think the heavy ground will go a long way in Utmost Respect’s favour on his Newcastle form and can shut the gap on African Rose.
My thoughts too, hth.
In a steadily run race on ground the RP has as g/s, UR was definitely closing down on AR, and a slog at Haydock will be right up his street.September 4, 2008 at 22:36 #179443i’m going to have a small e/w poke on Al Qasi who has a 50% strike rate over the distance 3 of those on softer ground. Indeed his only group win was on bottomless ground at the Curragh. Still available at 20/1; i’ve seen worse 20/1 shots.
I agree Aragorn- ability to handle conditions is likely to be more important than ability on Saturday and he looks overpriced at Ladbrokes 25/1.
September 4, 2008 at 22:44 #179444Negative vibes coming out of Haydock that racing may not take place!
Contigency plan has been put in place to run the Sprint Cup at Doncaster if Haydock fails this Saturday
September 4, 2008 at 22:57 #179446We did have a very rough spell during the morning and a little bit of the afternoon.
To win the Sprint Cup you need a horse that will stay about 1m as it will be very testing.
September 4, 2008 at 23:06 #179447We did have a very rough spell during the morning and a little bit of the afternoon.
To win the Sprint Cup you need a horse that will stay about 1m as it will be very testing.
On that statement alone surely US Ranger has a chance in this?
AOB had entries for him in 7f and 1m this year which must show he believes he can stay that far
September 5, 2008 at 00:58 #179451US Ranger acts as a tough, staying workhorse of a sprinter – how that is even possible is beyond words.
The problem is – I know he has truckloads of class and ability good enough to flog these into another postcode, but … how will he do it?
I think the price is getting cosy though, and I might take it this time around.
September 5, 2008 at 08:48 #179466Which piece of form shows he’s good enough to beat these to another postcode?
September 5, 2008 at 10:13 #179484Who said I need to follow the form straightforward? I say he has the ability good enough to flog these but he’s exhausting anyone who follows him.
September 5, 2008 at 10:25 #179490If he hasn’t shown he is good enough to "flog" these yet, i can’t personally see why he would find the improvement to do so now.
If you’re right, you’ve got a nice price for a penalty kick. All the best.
September 5, 2008 at 12:46 #179513Judging by Betfair’s "will racing go ahead" market this thread is all academic…
September 5, 2008 at 12:50 #179516Judging by Betfair’s "will racing go ahead" market this thread is all academic…
Yep I’ve been watching that too. Bit of a sad state of affairs if this gets cancelled as it’ll be the 2nd succesive group 1 sprint that has had to be rescheduled from its home.
Hope that that 3.85 on Betfair for racing to go ahead is false though and there is a chance for Haydock to be on. York drifted to around 12.0 around this time before Ebor day which in comparison is a positive…
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